In Episode 49 we have a mother-daughter talk about season one of the Apple TV+ series PACHINKO, which premiered in 2022. PACHINKO is based on Min Jin Lee’s epic second novel about four generations of a Korean family trying to control their destiny in 20th-century Japan as exiles from their familiar home. PACHINKO was one of our 2023 "Page to Screen" summer book recommendations (Ep. 37).

Our guests for the conversation about PACHINKO, the book and the series, are Kat Turner and her daughter Taylor Turner.

Kat, a Korean-adoptee trying to figure out a way to spend more time in Korea, is a former broadcast journalist and blogs about everything Korean. Kat is our "go-to" for historical K-drama and was a previous guest on the podcast to talk about the K-drama MR. SUNSHINE (Ep. 17).

Taylor is a biracial Korean American writer, artist, entrepreneur, and expert thrifter.She’s an obsessed dog mom, proud ATINY or fan of ATEEZ a South Korean pop Boy band, and deep conversation enthusiast. Taylor's mother Kat is a proud ARMY — as in the South Korean Boy Band BTS. She says V is her bias, and the other six members are her bias wreckers! 

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0:08 Podcast Intro

1:17 Kat Turner and Taylor Turner Intros

3:08 Pachinko Series Based on Novel

5:33 Pachinko casting, Zainichi, and Korean identity

15:35 Split Lives and Double Consciousness

17:12 Noonchi, Cheong, Han Korean cultural values in Pachinko

26:29 Mental health in Korean culture and kdramas

34:21 Character growth and transformation in Pachinko

41:23 Pachinko series adaptation and departures from the novel

49:30 Break

52:45 Asian representation in films and television series

57:23 Representation and criticism in TV series

1:01:21 Book vs. film adaptation of Crazy Rich Asians

1:12:40 Centering women's stories in media

1:17:50 Personal history, cultural identity, and time capsules

1:22:39 Pachinko where to watch series and purchase novel

1:23:30 Outro

1:24: 53 Disclaimer

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