Episode 74 features a conversation with Keith W. Stokes, Rhode Island State Historian Laureate, and Theresa “Soni” Guzman Stokes, Executive Director for the Rhode Island Black Heritage Society (advisors for Season 3 of THE GILDED AGE) about Newport and Rhode Island’s African heritage history.

In THE GILDED AGE’s 3rd season, the HBO series created by Julian Fellowes (DOWNTON ABBEY), audiences are introduced to the Kirklands of Newport, Rhode Island, a family with deep roots in Newport’s African heritage community with the professional and educational pedigrees to match. 

CONTENT NOTES: This podcast is being released prior to the June 22nd premiere of THE GILDED AGE's 3rd season. There may be a few spoilers in the conversation. The word "colored" comes up in its historical content and context. The word “colored” was used in the U.S. to refer to people of African descent during the mid to late 19th century. African Americans embraced "colored" as a self-identifying term during that time, followed by "Negro" (historical content and context).

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0:16 - Introduction to the podcast and THE GILDED AGE season 3

1:17 - GILDED AGE Season 3 Black Newport storyline

2:44 - Rhode Island's Black Heritage Society, Theresa Soni Guzmán Stokes and Keith W. Stokes

3:52 - Inspiration for Gilded Age Newport In Color exhibition at Rosecliff Mansion (2024)

6:45 - Exploring Newport's African Heritage History

8:55 - Challenges and importance of history from the African heritage experience 

17:21 - Interdependence versus integration

23:59 - Newport's African heritage leaders in business and medicine

25:17 - Colored Women's Clubs founder Mary Dickerson

32:54 - Break

33:32 - Race consciousness and uplift in African heritage Newport community 

39:11 - Education and Black advancement

46:56 - Supporting heritage and historical institutions

48:08 - Teaching history and positive youth identity

50:46 - Cape Verdeans in African heritage and New England history

51:39 - Visiting Newport's African heritage and history

58:54 - Theresa Soni Guzmán Stokes' and Keith W. Stokes' historical drama pitches

1:05:51 - Where to watch THE GILDED AGE

1:06:18 - Rhode Island Black Heritage Society virtual tour and website info

1:08:29 - Disclaimer

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THE GILDED AGE debuts its eight-episode third season SUNDAY, JUNE 22 at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT on HBO and will be available to stream on Max. 

Episode 74 will be available on a special date - JUNE 17.

Note: “Historical Drama with The Boston Sisters®” will be on Summer hiatus during the months of July and August. The podcast returns in Fall 2025. 

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Episode 73 is the 2025 Page to Screen podcast where The Boston Sisters talk about 5 books related to historical drama series and films for summer reading.

This year we highlight stories or provide a deeper dive into the films and series featured in the 4th podcast season (2024 - 2025). The authors of three 2025 summer reads were guests on the podcast.*

• ​The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen* (2015) | Ep. 58
• ​The Piano Lesson by August Wilson (1986) | Ep. 62
• ​Shirley Chisholm In Her Own Words: Speeches and Writings by Zinga A. Fraser, PhD* (2024) | Ep. 59
• ​Call The Midwife by Jennifer Worth (2002) | Ep. 70
• ​Miss Austen by Gill Hornby* (2020) | Ep. 71

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TIMESTAMPS

0:14 - Intro to Episode 73

1:17 - THE SYMPATHIZER/Viet Thanh Nguyen

9:40 - The PIANO LESSON/August Wilson

12:59 -SHIRLEY CHISHOLM IN HER OWN WORDS: SPEECHES AND WRITINGS/ Zinga A. Fraser, editor

27:52 - Break

28:30 CALL THE MIDWIFE/Jennifer Worth

41:14 - MISS AUSTEN/Gill Hornby

53:05 - Recap

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In Episode 72, we talk with filmmaker Darren Haruo Rae about NISEI (2023). NISEI , written and directed by Rae, is the first historical drama short film featured on the podcast. The film shines a light on an all-Japanese-American troop of soldiers who fought in World War II for a country imprisoning them and their families in internment camps because of their ancestry. The film is inspired by Rae’s Japanese American grandfather’s experiences during the war.

Stream NISEI (film) from the Omeleto YouTube channel.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:55 - Background and Introduction to NISEI film

4:05 - Darren Haruo Rae explains Nisei and importance to his grandfather's generation

9:20 - Historical Context and Research

17:14 - Symbolism and Themes in Nisei: American flag, identity, home

20:36 - NISEI Impact with Japanese veterans and community

25:557 - Challenges in Production for the NISEI film

30:55 - Future Projects and Historical Stories

34:54 - Where to stream NISEI

35:08 - Subscribe, Like, Share Historical Drama with The Boston Sisters

36:33 - Disclaimer

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NISEI, a short film written and directed by Darren Haruo Rae, (our guest for Ep. 72), shines a light on an all-Japanese-American troop of soldiers who fought in World War II for a country imprisoning them and their families because of their ancestry. The story is inspired by the filmmaker's Japanese American grandfather's WWII experiences in the 442nd Regimental Combat Team. In the preview, Darren Haruo Rae talks about uncovering his family story while making NISEI.

The complete podcast conversation with Darren Haruo Rae is available May 13, 2025. Subcribe to Historical Drama with The Boston Sisters® on your favorite podcast platform so you won't miss a single episode.

In episode 71 we talk with Gill Hornby, author of the best-selling novel Miss Austen which has been adapted for a 4-part series premiering on MASTERPIECE on PBS May 4, 2025 (check local listings). MISS AUSTEN seeks to unravel the historic literary mystery by reimanging Cassandra Austen’s act of sisterly love in burning the letters of her famous author sister Jane Austen after Jane’s death in 1817.  

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TIMESTAMPS

0:57- MISS AUSTEN series overview and cast

3:14 - Introducing novel writer, Gill Hornby

4:06 - Motivation for MISS AUSTEN novel -- Cassandra Austen fan girl

9:44 - Adapting MISS AUSTEN for the screen

11:47 - Women's financial insecurity in Austen's time

16:56 - Mrs. Bennet as the heroine of Pride and Prejudice

18:14 - Was Sense and Sensibility a dig at Jane and Cassandra's sister-in-law?

20:16 - Sisterly bond of Jane and Cassandra Austen

22:57 - Cassandra as Jane's "great wife" behind the writer

26:50 - Casting Dr. Lidderdale as Black physician

28:58 - Jane Austen's global appeal

32:32 - Other Austen novels by Gill Hornby

34:49 - Where to watch MISS AUSTEN

35:23 - Purchase MISS AUSTEN novel from affiliate bookstore

35:43 - Podcast subscription information

37:07 - Disclaimer

Spoiler alert (if you haven't read the novel or seen the series yet)

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Episode 71 preview:

In episode 71 we talk with Gill Hornby, author of the best-selling novel Miss Austen which has been adapted for a 4-part series premiering on MASTERPIECE on PBS May 4, 2025 (check local listings).

The complete podcast (Episode 71) featuring this conversation with Gill Hornby will be published Tuesday, April 29. 

MISS AUSTEN seeks to unravel the historic literary mystery by reimanging Cassandra Austen’s act of sisterly love in burning the letters of her famous author sister Jane Austen after Jane’s death in 1817.  

Subscribe to Historical Drama with The Boston Sisters® on your favorite platform so you won’t miss this great conversation with Gill Hornby.

In episode 70, we go behind the scenes of CALL THE MIDWIFE with Jenny Agutter who portrays Sister Julienne in the series. Jenny Agutter has been with CALL THE MIDWIFE since the series premiere in 2012. CALL THE MIDWIFE is enjoying its 14th season on PBS.

Created and written by Heidi Thomas, CALL THE MIDWIFE is based on the trilogy of memoirs by Jennifer Worth about her experiences as a midwife nurse in London’s East End during the 1950s (Season 14 is set in 1970). The series presents moving and intimate stories that capture the history and work of British midwifery with the characters’s personal and the Poplar community’s struggles with illness, addiction, domestic violence, xenophobia and racism, poverty, displacement, death and grief.

During the conversation, Agutter emphasizes the show's focus on humanity, empathy, and community, and its accurate portrayal of midwifery practices.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:08 - Introduction to Historical Drama with The Boston Sisters podcast

1:28 - CALL THE MIDWIFE show overview and themes

4:01 - Jenny Agutter on CALL THE MIDWIFE's popularity

6:10 -  Season 14 themes and social issues

11:41 - Historical and medical accuracy in CALL THE MIDWIFE 

15:00 - Medical impact of CALL THE MIDWIFE 

21:15 - Sister Julienne's role and character arc

27: 59 - Empathy and community in CALL THE MIDWIFE

31:12 - Public health versus community care and health

34:12 - Sister Julienne's leadership and community support

35.12 - Future of Nonnatus House

40:00 - Where to catch CALL THE MIDWIFE (PBS, Netflix)

40:33 - Books related to CALL THE MIDWIFE

42:22 - Disclaimer

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In episode 70, we go behind the scenes of the drama series CALL THE MIDWIFE with Jenny Agutter who portrays Sister Julienne. Jenny Agutter has been with CALL THE MIDWIFE since the series's premiere in 2012. CALL THE MIDWIFE is enjoying its 14th season on PBS.

Created and written by Heidi Thomas, CALL THE MIDWIFE is based on the trilogy of memoirs by Jennifer Worth about her experiences as a midwife nurse in London’s East End during the 1950s (Season 14 is set in 1970).

In the preview for episode 70, Jenny Agutter talks about why CALL THE MIDWIFE is a series for our times.

The complete podcast is available April 8, 2025. 

In episode 69 we spotlight the PBS Masterpiece series WOLF HALL: THE MIRROR AND THE LIGHT with a behind-the-scenes visit to the Folger Shakespeare Library exhibition, “How to Be a Power Player: Tudor Edition” with the curator Dr. Heather Wolfe Curator of Manuscripts for the Folger (in Washington, DC), which holds the world’s largest Shakespeare collection. 

WOLF HALL: THE MIRROR AND THE LIGHT traces the final four years of Thomas Cromwell’s life, completing his journey from self-made man to the most feared, influential figure of his time as a principal advisory to England's King Henry VIII. The series is based on the final novel by Hilary Mantel in the Thomas Cromwell trilogy.

As an added bonus, Heather Wolfe shared documents from the Folger collection for the real-life Thomas Cromwell, Henry the VIII, and Henry's 4th wife, Anne of Cleves,. Go to the podcast website (for Ep. 69) to see images of these artifacts and for more information about the Foger Shakespeare Library's exhibit "How to Be a Power Player: Tudor Edition" on display through July 2025.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:19 - A Visit to the Folger Shakespeare Library (Washington, DC)

0:56 - Folger “How to Be a Power Player: Tudor Style” exhibit

2:02 - “Wolf Hall: The Mirror and the Light” overview and cast

3:18-  Heather Wolfe, Curator of Manuscripts at Folger Shakespeare Library

3:30 - Roles and Responsibilities of Curator of Manuscripts

4:22 - Paleography, the study of handwriting

5:14 - Inspiration behind “How To Be A Power Player: Tudor Style” and relevance to 2025

6:48 - Tudor power players' relationships, skills, and power dynamics

7:38 - Tudor "playbooks" from Machiavelli and Castiglione 

12:19 - Power dressing, fashion policing, and personal branding in Tudor times

15:13 - Hospitality power plays: napkin folding and meat carving

22:48 - Break

23:32 - Thomas Cromwell, Henry VIII, and Anne of Cleves artifacts and letters

29:57 - Class status and social mobility in Tudor Times

32:36 - Women's power and influence in the Tudor court

36:09 - Visitor takeaways from “How to Be A Power Playe: Tudor Edition”r exhibit

38:21 - Folger Shakespeare Library resources

38:50 - How to watch “Wolf Hall: The Mirror and the Light” on PBS “Masterpiece”

41:04 - Disclaimer

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