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  • Breaking the Consultant Hustle Cycle with Rachel Minion

    If you've ever found yourself trapped in the exhausting cycle of filling your pipeline, delivering to clients, then scrambling to fill your pipeline again—this episode is for you. Rachel Minion, Head Rock Star at Rockstarr & Moon, joins host Zaneta Chuniq Inpower to break down why consultants get stuck in what she calls "the grind cycle" and how to escape it without working more hours.

    Rachel brings a unique perspective as a third-generation entrepreneur who cut her teeth managing 400 to 1,200 estimates daily at her parents' printing company before moving into corporate marketing roles at Verizon Wireless and Ticketmaster. When the pandemic hit and she was furloughed, she went full-time on her consulting business and never looked back.

    In this conversation, Rachel shares how her Profit Multiplier program helps consultants find at least $100,000 in hidden profit—with one client already seeing a 52% year-over-year sales increase and another at 42% growth, all without adding staff. She also gets refreshingly honest about the moment every entrepreneur faces when they think "maybe it would be easier to just get a job" and how to push through it.

    The most tactical segment comes when Rachel describes losing her project manager of three years and her husband's challenge: what if you automated 80% of the role? Three weeks of intensive work later—mapping processes, rewriting SOPs, and building automations—she went from working 3 a.m. to 7 p.m. to finishing by 5:30 for dinner. Her example of turning meeting note-takers into automated task creation systems is something any consultant can implement immediately.

    Rachel also challenges the common advice to just "talk about yourself more" when marketing your consulting business. Her reframe: make the client the hero of every success story. When you showcase their transformation and challenges, prospective clients see themselves achieving the same results.

    The conversation touches on why systems beat hustle every time, the importance of interconnected tools rather than disconnected apps, and Rachel's ambitious goal to help 100 small businesses double by 2029. She argues that when small businesses grow, the ripple effects extend far beyond revenue—to their families, communities, local little leagues, and neighboring businesses in ways that large corporations simply don't replicate.

    For consultants struggling with inconsistent lead flow, Rachel's core message is clear: you're not lacking talent, you're lacking structure. And more hustle won't fix a business that isn't built on a proven growth system.

    Connect with Rachel directly at rachelminion.com or explore her consulting frameworks at rockstarrandmoon.com—that's Rockstarr with two R's at the end.

    Rachel's current reading stack includes Alex Hormozi's $100M Offers and $100 Million Leads, which she returns to regularly for fresh ideas on testing and experimentation.

    About the Host

    Zaneta Chuniq Inpower is a marketing professional and entrepreneur based in Atlanta with experience across multiple industries including resume writing and personal branding.

    About the Guest

    Rachel Minion is the founder and Head Rock Star at Rockstarr & Moon, a RevOps organization helping B2B consultants escape the grind cycle and build predictable, scalable profit. A third-generation entrepreneur, Rachel previously contributed to the Verizon Wireless website rebuild and led marketing at Ticketmaster before going full-time on her consulting practice during the pandemic. She's based in Northeast Florida.

    Episode produced by Unscripted Small Business

    Interview edited and formatted by Jeremy Rivera

    25 min
  • Chelsea Jambo: Building a Tea Brand That Actually Sees Women's Hormonal Health

    At twenty-four, with a grandmother dying of cancer and her mother having just found a lump, Chelsea Jambo asked a doctor for preventative care. He told her to come back when she actually had breast cancer. That refusal is where Our Body began. Host Zaneta Chuniq Inpower takes her through it.

    Key takeaways
    • The taboo belongs to the other side of the room. Her reframe: it is not taboo for women, it is taboo for men.
    • The business started in frustration, not opportunity. A refusal she could not accept, and no product she could buy instead.
    • Symptom-based formulation, not person-based. One product covers every symptom inside a hormonal phase, modelled on multi-symptom cold medicine.
    • Funding for women’s health is being crowded out. Support for startups is real and it is aimed almost entirely at technology.
    • It is not a tea company. Correcting that misreading is a permanent part of the job.
    • Education is the growth lever. The product is downstream of it.
    • On this page
      • Whose taboo is it
      • The appointment that started it
      • Symptom-based, like cold medicine
      • Raising money for women’s health
      • Not a tea company
      • Education as the product
      • People, ideas and sources mentioned
      • Questions this episode answers
      • Go deeper
      • Whose taboo is it

        And it’s kind of come to the realization that it’s not really taboo for women, it’s taboo for men.

        — Chelsea Jambo

        It is a small reframe that changes the marketing entirely. If women are not the ones who find the subject uncomfortable, then softening the language for their benefit is solving a problem they do not have.

        It’s what I like to call the chaos phase, where you’re like, well, I’m still menstruating, but also I’m experiencing the symptoms of hot flashes, I’m also feeling depressed, it’s just pure chaos.

        — Chelsea Jambo
        The appointment that started it

        We ended the appointment with him saying, you’re 24, you don’t have breast cancer, I’m not putting my name on it.

        — Chelsea Jambo

        It’s not like I’m saying I have a cold. It’s like I’m trying to figure out if I have a risk of having cancer, a serious disease, down the line, and his refusal shocked me.

        — Chelsea Jambo

        Her grandmother was in stage four. Her mother had found a lump. She was asking about risk, not diagnosis, and was refused on the basis of her age.

        What followed was taking inventory of her own health, finding she was living on over-the-counter painkillers for debilitating period pain, and looking for something that targeted the symptom rather than numbing everything.

        Symptom-based, like cold medicine

        The formulation decision is the most interesting business choice in the episode. Products in this category are usually built around a type of person. Hers are built around a symptom.

        • Heavy bleeding, cramps, bloating and mood changes each get addressed rather than each customer type getting a product.
        • One product therefore serves very different women who happen to be in the same phase.
        • The explicit model is multi-symptom cold medicine, which nobody expects to be personalised.
        • Formulations were developed with specialists and naturopaths, with attention to how the herbs interact.
        • Raising money for women’s health

          We’re hearing a lot about support for small businesses and startups, but the category is often toward AI and tech.

          — Chelsea Jambo

          The funding is genuinely available and it is pointed somewhere else. A wellness brand for hormonal health is not what most of the current programmes were designed to back, which shapes what she can build and how fast.

          Us women, we have a voice, we have a platform, we’re half the world’s population. Let’s talk about this, let’s start changing the narrative, and let’s provide other women with education.

          — Chelsea Jambo
          Not a tea company

          People saw the tea and they’re like, oh, you’re a tea company. And I’m like, no, we’re not a tea company, we’re a women’s wellness company.

          — Chelsea Jambo

          The format of the product keeps becoming the category in people’s heads. It is a familiar problem for anyone whose delivery mechanism is more recognisable than their purpose, and the only fix is repetition.

          Education as the product

          Growth comes from teaching rather than selling, which is slower and produces customers who understand what they bought. Retail expansion is planned, and the education has to come first for it to land.

          Because I think the best brands and the best projects are those built out of pure passion.

          — Chelsea Jambo
          People, ideas and sources mentioned
          EntityWhat it is
          Our BodyChelsea’s women’s wellness brand for hormonal health
          Symptom-based formulationProducts built around a symptom rather than a customer type
          The chaos phaseHer name for perimenopause overlapping with menstruation
          Zaneta Chuniq InpowerThe host of this episode
          The funding gapStartup support concentrated on technology rather than women’s health
          Questions this episode answers
          • Why is women’s hormonal health still awkward to talk about?
          • What is perimenopause and what does it feel like?
          • Why formulate a product by symptom instead of by customer?
          • How hard is it to raise money for a women’s wellness brand?
          • How do you correct a misunderstanding about what your company is?
          • Can education be a growth strategy?
          • What advice does a founder give someone starting from frustration?
          • Go deeper

            Every link above goes somewhere different. These are the ones not already mentioned above.

            • The full written recap of this conversation.
            • Mark Gilliland on building a wellness brand in a category the regulator ignores.
            • Meaghan Wall on the finance side of a young product business.
            • Find Chelsea Jambo

              Our Body is at ourbody.ca, and the brand is on Instagram as shopourbody. Hosted by Zaneta Chuniq Inpower. More at Unscripted Small Business.

              Cite this episode

              Jambo, Chelsea. Interviewed by Zaneta Chuniq Inpower. “Building a Tea Brand That Actually Sees Women’s Hormonal Health.” Unscripted Small Business, 2026. https://unscripted-small-business.castos.com/episodes/chelsea-jambo-building-a-tea-brand-that-actually-sees-womens-hormonal-health

              23 min
            • Dave Gulas on Customer Service, Entrepreneurship & E-commerce Logistics

              Episode from the Unscripted Small Business Podcast

              Host: Jeremy Rivera — SEO Arcade Founder & Freelance SEO Consultant

              Guest: Dave Gulas — President & Co-Founder of EZDC 3PL

              Sponsored by: Cookeville Sunroom Company

              About the Guest

              Dave Gulas is the president and co-founder of EZDC 3PL, providing warehousing, fulfillment, and transportation services for manufacturers and e-commerce brands. With 20 years in medical/pharmaceutical sales and over three years in logistics, Dave brings a customer-first approach to the 3PL industry.

              Dave also hosts the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, featuring real stories from entrepreneurs — available on the EZDC Blog and all major podcast platforms.

              Episode Summary

              In this conversation, Dave shares how he and his partner identified a gap in the 3PL market — legacy providers weren't delivering the customer service that growing e-commerce brands needed. Three years later, EZDC has built a reputation for responsiveness and genuine care.

              Key Topics Covered:

              • Why e-commerce brands reach a "graduation point" where outsourcing fulfillment makes sense
              • The importance of warehouse management systems (WMS) and automated integrations
              • How behind the meter energy for AI data centers is the type of industry changing changes we can expect 
              • Common mistakes when scaling a business — saying yes to the wrong customers
              • Bootstrap vs. funded startups: which succeed more often?
              • The unglamorous reality of entrepreneurship
              • Why personal branding matters more than ever in 2026
              • Resources & Links Mentioned
                About EZDC 3PL
                • EZDC 3PL Homepage
                • About EZDC
                • Packaging and Kitting Services
                • Retail Logistics and Warehousing Services
                • The Kentucky Advantage: Why a Central Hub is Key for Nationwide 3PL
                • EZDC Blog & Beyond Fulfillment Podcast
                • Connect with Dave Gulas
                  • Dave Gulas on LinkedIn
                  • SEO & Marketing Resources

                    From SEO Arcade:

                    • SEO Forecasting 101: Methods, Metrics, Tools, and Challenges
                    • The Revenue-First SEO Strategy That's Actually Working
                    • Opportunity Sizing in SEO
                    • How a Podcast Generates Links, Content, Audience, Citations & Authority
                    • White Label Podcast Service
                    • From Jeremy Rivera SEO:

                      • SEO Basics for Small Business
                      • Simple, Effective Link Building
                      • SEO ROI
                      • Developing a Style Guide for Your Personal Brand
                      • Jeremy Rivera's SEO Resume & Experience
                      • Hire Jeremy Rivera
                      • SEO Services & Pricing
                      • Cookeville SEO Services
                      • Also Mentioned
                        • Michael McDougall — Right Thing Agency: What to Do When SEO Rankings Drop After a Site Launch
                        • Key Quotes from This Episode

                          "We saw a vast amount of complacency within the market to where legacy big box 3PLs were just not providing the proper service to e-commerce brands." — Dave Gulas

                          "Our guiding principle is we want to treat our customers as if it's our business in terms of we're gonna operate with urgency." — Dave Gulas

                          "Entrepreneurship has been glamorized so much in recent years... But let's be real about what it's really like to be an entrepreneur." — Dave Gulas

                          "Having a personal brand is more important than ever. People do business with people and faceless nameless brands are really losing ground." — Dave Gulas

                          "Struggle creates strength... It's really nature's way of making you stronger. Certainly entrepreneurs can relate to that." — Dave Gulas

                          Key Takeaways
                          1. Customer service is a competitive advantage — In industries plagued by complacency, responsiveness and genuine care can differentiate your business from legacy competitors.
                          2. Know when to say no — Chasing every deal and trying to be everything to everybody can hurt your business. Niching down and being selective about clients leads to better outcomes.
                          3. Content marketing creates inbound leads — Podcasting, blogging, LinkedIn posting, and appearing on other shows creates a flywheel effect that brings customers to you when they're ready.
                          4. Bootstrap companies often outperform funded ones — Patience and consistent daily actions beat rushing to scale before you're ready.
                          5. Personal branding matters more than ever — In an age of AI-generated content, people crave authentic human connection. Founder-led companies with visible leaders are winning.
                          6. Struggle creates strength — Like the fable of the premature butterfly, entrepreneurs need to go through challenges to develop the resilience required for success.
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                            • Host: Jeremy Rivera on LinkedIn | SEO Arcade | JeremyRiveraSEO.com
                            • Guest: Dave Gulas on LinkedIn | EZDC 3PL
                            • Have questions about e-commerce fulfillment? Reach out to EZDC 3PL for a quote.

                              Need help with SEO strategy for your business? Contact Jeremy Rivera for consulting

                              31 min
                            • The Costanza Theory: How Doing the Opposite Drives Success For Bill Kasko
                              Unscripted Small Business Podcast - Episode Show Notes
                              The Costanza Theory: How Doing the Opposite Built a 21-Year Business Empire

                              Guest: Bill Kasko, Founder & CEO of Frontline Source Group
                              Host: Jeremy Rivera
                              Podcast: Unscripted Small Business by Be Sharp Digital Marketing

                              Episode Summary

                              In this episode, Bill Kasko shares how he built a successful recruiting and staffing agency by doing the exact opposite of industry standards. From inverting the traditional sales model to being the first company to publish pricing online, Bill's "Costanza Theory" has disrupted an entire industry for over two decades.

                              We dive deep into the evolution of customer service technology, the fragmentation of the search landscape, and how AI is creating both opportunities and challenges for businesses. Bill also shares his insights on the current job market and why honest communication wins more business than overselling.

                              Key Topics Discussed
                              The Costanza Theory in Action
                              • How inverting the traditional sales-to-recruiter ratio created competitive advantage
                              • Why being the only company with a pricing page became their #1 traffic driver
                              • The importance of customer convenience over business convenience
                              • Technology Evolution & Customer Service
                                • Early adoption of online chat 21 years ago
                                • The rise and fall of chatbot effectiveness
                                • 24/7 scheduling and weekend service calls
                                • Why AI agents still aren't quite ready
                                • The Changing Search Landscape
                                  • Why presence across multiple platforms is now essential
                                  • How TikTok became the #2 search engine for young users
                                  • The challenge of getting indexed across different search engines
                                  • Reddit dominating 60% of search queries
                                  • AI's Impact on Business
                                    • The rise of fake candidates using AI tools
                                    • How HR departments are adopting AI faster than job requirements
                                    • The cognitive decline concerns with AI dependency
                                    • Why verification processes had to evolve
                                    • Honest Marketing Philosophy
                                      • Why transparency builds more trust than overselling
                                      • The importance of setting realistic expectations
                                      • How detailed information (like gravel driveway delivery specifics) improves customer experience
                                      • Guest Information

                                        Bill Kasko is the Founder and CEO of Frontline Source Group, a staffing agency and executive search firm with over 21 years of experience. Known for their industry-disrupting five-year placement warranty and contrarian business approach.

                                        Connect with Frontline Source Group:

                                        • Website: frontlinesourcegroup.com
                                        • LinkedIn: Follow their company page for white papers and industry insights
                                        • Specialties: Executive Search, IT Staffing, Accounting, Legal, Administrative
                                        • Host Information

                                          Jeremy Rivera is an SEO expert and digital marketing strategist who hosts the Unscripted Small Business podcast, featuring conversations with entrepreneurs and business leaders about real-world challenges and innovative solutions.

                                          Referenced People & Companies
                                          • Michael McDougall - Rightthing Agency
                                          • Matt Brooks - SEOteric (discussed LLM hallucinations)
                                          • Mike Buckby - Knowatoa (quoted on ChatGPT as customer support)
                                          • Cookeville Sunroom Company - Used as an example of a local service, small business providing sunroom additions in Cookeville
                                          • Key Quotes

                                            "I'm not that smart of a guy, Jeremy. I'm just not. These are just stupid things that I have stumbled on over 21 years and realized that business people sometimes are stupid." - Bill Kasko

                                            "We don't like to fail. It's so simple. Like, have an honest conversation with someone, especially a service business, if it's something that you know is going to be a struggle." - Bill Kasko

                                            "When you start doing the opposite of everybody else, it will work. Now I tell people when they call and give me a hard time about it. No, it doesn't work. You're right. Don't do it. Stay away from it. It's horrible." - Bill Kasko

                                            Main Takeaways
                                            1. The Costanza Principle Works: Doing the opposite of industry standards can create breakthrough competitive advantages
                                            2. Customer Convenience Trumps Business Convenience: 24/7 availability and immediate response times differentiate you from competitors
                                            3. Transparency Builds Trust: Being honest about challenges and timelines converts better than overselling
                                            4. Multi-Platform Presence is Essential: Success requires being found across Google, Bing, TikTok, Reddit, and emerging AI platforms
                                            5. Technology Adoption Requires Patience: Don't jump on trends before the technology actually works reliably
                                            6. Industry Insights Table

                                              Innovation Area Traditional Approach Frontline's Approach Result Sales Model 20 salespeople, 10 recruiters 1 salesperson, 20 recruiters Better candidate quality wins business Pricing Transparency No pricing pages in industry First to publish pricing online #1 traffic driver to website Customer Service Hours Monday-Friday, 8-5 only 24/7 scheduling, weekend calls Competitive differentiation Placement Guarantees 90-day standard 5-year warranty Industry disruption, client confidence

                                              Resources Mentioned
                                              • Search Platforms: Google, Bing, TikTok, Reddit, YouTube, Perplexity
                                              • AI Tools: ChatGPT, Claude, Copilot
                                              • Business Tools: Online chat systems, scheduling platforms, IP tracking for verification
                                              • Industry Associations: American Staffing Association
                                              • Related Services & Industries Discussed
                                                • Legal staffing and lawyer recruitment
                                                • Commercial real estate hiring challenges
                                                • Technology sector impacts
                                                • Healthcare and pharmaceutical staffing
                                                • Administrative and executive assistant placement
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                                                    49 min
                                                  • The Human Element in SEO for SMBS: A Unscripted Interview with Tianna Mamalick

                                                    Guest: Tianna Mamalick, SMB Marketing School

                                                    Episode Overview

                                                    Tianna Mamalick brings 12 years of SEO expertise focused exclusively on small businesses. In this conversation, she reveals why working with SMBs is more rewarding than enterprise clients, how to honestly manage expectations while delivering real results, and why she went back to human-written content after testing AI extensively. If you're a small business owner wondering what actually works in SEO right now, this episode cuts through the hype with practical, proven strategies.

                                                    Why This Episode Matters for Small Business Owners

                                                    Running a small business means every marketing dollar counts. Tianna specializes in helping businesses with limited budgets compete effectively by focusing on what drives actual revenue—not just traffic or rankings. She shares her formula for pairing SEO and paid ads that works specifically for service-based businesses, and explains why your service pages matter more than blog posts right now.

                                                    Key Discussion Points

                                                    The Small Business Advantage Unlike enterprise clients where a 20% conversion increase gets a polite "that's nice," small business owners email about life-changing results: hiring their first employee, taking their first vacation, or investing in business growth. For Tianna, this feedback makes the work meaningful.

                                                    Honest Expectations Setting

                                                    • Three-month minimum commitment required
                                                    • Clients must have budget they can afford to lose completely
                                                    • Not every market works the same (example: Pilates in Las Vegas vs. other cities)
                                                    • Regular check-ins at three months to evaluate if the strategy is working
                                                    • The SEO + Ads Formula While ads don't directly boost SEO, they strategically help prime new pages through engagement. When expanding to multiple locations, running targeted ads on new service pages helps get Google Business Profiles moving faster and improves location-specific performance.

                                                      What's Actually Working in Content

                                                      • Service pages are the priority: Every service needs its own detailed page
                                                      • Blog posts are secondary: Focus on key blog content, not volume
                                                      • Collaboration posts: Feature complementary businesses (example: makeup company writing about top lotions that pair well with their products)
                                                      • Opinion-based content: Take hard stands on your values and approach
                                                      • The AI Content Experiment Tianna's agency tested AI-generated content extensively—and none of those articles ranked well. They've gone 100% back to human-written content, using AI only for creating outlines based on top-ranking competitors. The reality: people want authentic mistakes and real human voice.

                                                        AI Search Reality Check Less than 10% of traffic comes from ChatGPT for most small businesses. While you should prepare by enriching About pages with certifications and expertise, this isn't the urgent crisis some marketers claim. Most people aren't using ChatGPT for business searches yet—we're still in early adoption.

                                                        Mining Your Best Content Stop using SEMrush as your starting point. Instead:

                                                        • Record sales calls and note what converts prospects
                                                        • Review customer support emails for common questions
                                                        • Ask front-line staff to keep notebooks of daily questions
                                                        • Use this real language in your content—it converts better than corporate marketing speak
                                                        • Platform-Agnostic SEO SEO principles work across all platforms, not just Google. Younger generations search directly on Instagram. Make sure you're consistently talking about your actual services across social media, not just listing a keyword in your bio while posting unrelated content.

                                                          Resources Mentioned
                                                          • Andy Crestodina & Content Chemistry - Collaboration post strategy
                                                          • SEOteric - Matt Brooks on content distribution
                                                          • Get Me Links - Alejandro Marinas
                                                          • Gus Pelogia interview - SEO as a universal superpower
                                                          • Michael McDougald, Right Thing Agency - Managing client expectations
                                                          • Precast Walls - Multi-location service business example
                                                          • Best Quotes

                                                            "When I increase revenue by 10K a month for a small business, I get emails like, 'I just hired my next person. I was able to take my first vacation.' It's not just a nice investment—it's a business changing investment."

                                                            "People want to work with people they like, know and trust. It's not just about the backlink. We're really looking at conversions—how can we get SEO to convert for you?"

                                                            "We can't give them cookie cutter content anymore. People want to see mistakes. They want to see people talking. They want to be connecting even in this content."

                                                            Connect with Tianna
                                                            • Website: smbmarketingschool.com
                                                            • Instagram: @smbmarketingschool
                                                            • Funnel Summit - January 28th with 8 speakers covering the modern marketing funnel
                                                            • Action Steps for Small Business Owners
                                                              1. Audit your service pages: Does each service have its own detailed page explaining benefits for different customer types?
                                                              2. Start recording conversations: Note what questions you answer on every sales call—that's your best content
                                                              3. Review your social media: Are you actually mentioning your services, or just posting generic content?
                                                              4. Create collaboration opportunities: Identify complementary businesses in your nexus of care and create content featuring them
                                                              5. Set realistic budgets: Only invest what you can afford to lose over three months while testing what works
                                                              6. Focus on conversions over rankings: Track which pages actually bring in customers, not just which keywords rank
                                                              7. Why Small Businesses Should Care About This Now

                                                                The SEO landscape is shifting from keyword-focused blog content to comprehensive service pages that answer real questions. Small businesses with limited budgets can't afford to waste money on tactics that don't convert. Tianna's approach focuses on the fundamentals that drive actual business growth: clear service descriptions, strategic local targeting, and content based on real customer conversations—not AI-generated fluff.

                                                                41 min
                                                              8. Crafting Memories: The Journey of a Wedding Photographer with Terrence Irving

                                                                Join Jeremy Rivera as he delves into the world of wedding photography with Terrence Irving. Discover how Terrence transitioned from a hobbyist to a professional, balancing his passion with a corporate career, and the unique challenges and joys of capturing life's most cherished moments. Learn about his marketing strategies, the importance of building relationships, and his vision for the future.

                                                                28 min
                                                              9. From Failed Ventures to Financial Freedom & Faith with Scott Curry

                                                                Scott Curry shares his incredible 15-year entrepreneurial journey from multiple failed businesses to building a thriving YouTube channel that replaced his six-figure income in just three months. In this powerful conversation, Scott reveals how a personal tragedy inspired his new mission: helping a million people achieve financial freedom so they never have to choose between work and family.

                                                                In This Episode, You'll Learn:

                                                                • How Scott pivoted from motivational speaking to YouTube success during COVID by teaching investment strategies
                                                                • The reality of working 3-4 hours of sleep per night for three months to launch a successful side hustle
                                                                • Why YouTube monetization is just the beginning—Scott made $5,000 in month two with only $500 from ad revenue
                                                                • The strategic shift from one-time affiliate income to monthly memberships that scaled to $25,000/month
                                                                • How to survive YouTube's brutal first 10 videos when the algorithm ignores you completely
                                                                • Why providing value to many people beats charging premium prices to a few
                                                                • The heartbreaking family story that transformed Scott's business mission forever
                                                                • Scott's framework for "failing small" and getting through 100 failures faster to reach success
                                                                • Key Timestamps:

                                                                  • [00:01] Introduction and Scott's current success after 15 years of failures
                                                                  • [02:00] The COVID pivot from motivational speaking to online education
                                                                  • [04:51] Turning $1,000 into $32,000 in one month—proof of actual results
                                                                  • [08:13] The truth about YouTube monetization and multiple income streams
                                                                  • [12:23] Why YouTube is harder than other platforms (and why that's good)
                                                                  • [15:26] The Faith Roar mission: inspired by a mother's one regret
                                                                  • [22:20] "You're paid based on the value you provide" finally makes sense
                                                                  • [25:03] The two books that shaped Scott's journey
                                                                  • Notable Quotes:

                                                                    "I didn't give up. I had a failure, overcame it, failure, overcame it, and just kept on going."

                                                                    "It is exceptionally rare to find somebody who can and teaches—and when you find people like that, go subscribe to every single social media platform they're on."

                                                                    "I've met a lot of people on their deathbeds. I've never met anybody who said they regretted not working more. I've met a lot of people who regretted not spending more time with their family."

                                                                    "The people that go into business to help others are the ones that are the most successful. Your why for starting a business has to be to help people. It cannot be to make money."

                                                                    "The only thing that is stopping you from achieving the life you've always wanted is action. So just get started."

                                                                    Resources Mentioned:

                                                                    • Faith Roar - Scott's new company dedicated to helping people achieve financial freedom: faithroar.com
                                                                    • We Profit Day and Night Trading Success Journal - Scott's 230-page journal with only 30 pages of information and 200 pages of action steps
                                                                    • The Bible - Particularly Psalms, Proverbs, and the Gospels for strength and perseverance
                                                                    • Connect with Scott Curry:

                                                                      • Website: faithroar.com
                                                                      • Learn about investment education and trading strategies
                                                                      • Discover how to start a YouTube channel and online business
                                                                      • Access resources for achieving financial freedom
                                                                      • About the Unscripted Small Business Podcast:

                                                                        Hosted by Zanetta Chunique Empower, Unscripted Small Business brings you authentic conversations with entrepreneurs who share the real stories behind their success—including the failures, pivots, and breakthroughs that shaped their journeys.

                                                                        27 min
                                                                      • Roll Up Your Sleeves: Michael Gerard on 24 Years Building Wildwood Ovens

                                                                        Michael Gerard is the founder of Wildwood Ovens and Barbecues, an LA-based manufacturer of high-end wood-fired ovens, Argentine grills, Brazilian barbecues and Japanese yakitori grills. In 1999 he imported a wood-fired pizza oven, found the packaging terrible and the product "not so good," and decided to cast his own. Wildwood now has products in 32 countries.

                                                                        "Be prepared to roll up your sleeves. Be prepared to work 12 to 16 hours a day."

                                                                        Read the full episode recap: Roll Up Your Sleeves: Michael Gerard on 24 Years Building Wildwood Ovens.

                                                                        What Michael and Jeremy cover

                                                                        • Going from importer to manufacturer with no casting experience: a fiberglass mold expert, then foam blocks CNC-shaped from computer-aided designs.
                                                                        • Marketing a product that barely existed in the US in 1999, starting with keyword bids on Overture before Google search took over.
                                                                        • YouTube before influencers: how-to-cook and how-to-light-a-fire videos from the early 2000s, and why video that "cross pollinates to the website" is still the mainstay.
                                                                        • AI as a tool first: code fixes, tuning the site for search, and recirculating a big back catalog of social content.
                                                                        • Selling to the decision maker. "The executive chefs are the ones that tell management what they want in their kitchen and management tends to listen to their chefs."
                                                                        • The private test kitchen: cooking classes for home cooks, and pop-ups where guest chefs show the gear to buyers.
                                                                        • 32 countries, from the Palace of Oman to a prospect in the Bahamas who found them on Instagram, and what tariffs on Chinese stainless steel did to the grill line.
                                                                        • Moving from a bootstrapped founder-does-everything company to hiring upper management for marketing.
                                                                        • Do this next

                                                                          • Teach before you sell. If buyers don't know your category exists, make the how-to video they'll search for first.
                                                                          • Find who signs off on your product and write for them, not the person who uses it.
                                                                          • Put "we ship internationally" where visitors can see it. Some of the world will take you up on it.
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                                                                            Jeremy's fry oil client story, the one about writing for the chef instead of the fry cook, gets a longer telling in his conversation with Grady Teske. For the SEO side of Michael's YouTube strategy, see Anthony Prichard on video SEO. See Wildwood's cooking videos on YouTube and Instagram, and shop the wood-fired pizza ovens.

                                                                            More founder interviews in the small business marketing that actually works collection and the full Unscripted Small Business interview archive.

                                                                            Host: Jeremy Rivera. Guest: Michael Gerard, founder, Wildwood Ovens and Barbecues.

                                                                            19 min
                                                                          • Sarah Ashley: The Strategy Most Copywriters Skip

                                                                            Most copywriters are writers who can do a little strategy. Sarah Ashley of Portal Copy Co built her business the other way around. Host Zaneta Chuniq Inpower talks with her about pivoting without betraying yourself, why the honest version of freelancing is unglamorous, and using AI as a thought partner rather than a ghostwriter.

                                                                            In this episode
                                                                            • Why the question “where do I start” is answered with introspection, not tactics
                                                                            • The emotional attachment trap — feeling like a pivot means betraying yourself
                                                                            • Honest expectations for freelancing: long hours, trial and error, no glamour
                                                                            • Be a generalist first and narrow into a niche later, not the reverse
                                                                            • Mississippi State computer science to an MBA to five-dollar Fiverr blog posts
                                                                            • Is SEO dead? Why semantic search and adopting new tools is non-negotiable
                                                                            • AI as a thought partner: brainstorm and organize, never publish the output
                                                                            • Why even a book needs a marketing strategy behind it
                                                                            • “Understanding like where to start and where to go just always begins with a lot of introspection and a lot of self-awareness and a lot of asking yourself hard questions that maybe you haven’t asked yourself in a long time or ever.” — Sarah Ashley
                                                                              “A lot of people online make it look simple and they think it’s like a glamorous path, but it’s really not. It’s very time consuming and a lot of just throwing things at the wall and figuring out what works at first.” — Sarah Ashley
                                                                              “So many people don’t really think about marketing strategy, but it’s so huge. Even if you feel like you don’t need marketing or you just need like a one-off sales page, some people don’t even think about the marketing component, but it’s there.” — Sarah Ashley

                                                                              Read the full recap: How I Fuse Marketing Strategy With Copywriting to Get Clients Results

                                                                              Connect with Sarah: portalcopyco.com

                                                                              Hosted by Zaneta Chuniq Inpower. More at Unscripted Small Business.

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                                                                            • Hand Therapy, MetaFlex® Gloves, and the Future of Rehabilitation With Justin Stehr

                                                                              In this episode, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Justin Stehr, OT, a Certified Hand Therapist at Vanderbilt Health and Clinical Consultant for MetaFlex®. Justin shares his journey from business operations to working at Vanderbilt, and discusses innovative approaches to hand therapy, the mental health connection to chronic pain, and unexpected clinical applications of compression gloves.

                                                                              Episode Highlights:

                                                                              • The power of movement and understanding hand biomechanics
                                                                              • Why we all have overly strong flexors (and what to do about it)
                                                                              • How MetaFlex® gloves work differently from traditional bracing
                                                                              • Unexpected applications: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, stroke recovery, and more
                                                                              • The sleep-mental health-pain connection you're probably overlooking
                                                                              • A remarkable Vanderbilt limb salvage case study
                                                                              • Upcoming research presentations at ACRM and beyond
                                                                              • About Justin Stehr

                                                                                Justin Stehr, OT, CHT is a Certified Hand Therapist at Vanderbilt Health in Nashville, Tennessee, where he was recently named 2024 Acute Occupational Therapist of the Year. He holds a master's degree in occupational therapy with specialized focus on upper extremity rehabilitation, stroke recovery, and hand therapy.

                                                                                Justin also holds certifications in:

                                                                                • Wound care
                                                                                • Ergonomics
                                                                                • Hand therapy (CHT)
                                                                                • He currently serves as Clinical Consultant for MetaFlex®, where he educates healthcare professionals on innovative approaches to hand rehabilitation. Justin has presented research at national conferences including the American Congress of Rehabilitative Medicine (ACRM) and has upcoming presentations with the Canadian Percussion Network on the biomechanics of drumming.

                                                                                  Personal Background: Justin's path to hand therapy includes a unique personal connection—15 years ago, he experienced a severe hand injury requiring reconstruction of tendons, nerves, and arteries, giving him firsthand understanding of the rehabilitation journey.

                                                                                  Key Takeaways
                                                                                  1. The Flexor-Extensor Imbalance

                                                                                  Quote: "We spend all day long, we grip everything. So we're constantly grabbing and pinching and then when we're ready to let go of that item or task, we just let go, we relax. We never forcefully open."

                                                                                  This creates an imbalance where our flexor muscles become overly strong while extensors remain weak and stretched out—contributing to conditions like carpal tunnel syndrome.

                                                                                  Action Item: Take frequent breaks to stretch what's tight and strengthen what's weak.

                                                                                  2. Motion is Lotion

                                                                                  Quote: "The power of movement and the same motion is lotion, right? We need to be able to take those frequent breaks."

                                                                                  Regular movement and position changes are essential for joint and soft tissue health.

                                                                                  3. Nothing Replaces Natural Functional Motion

                                                                                  Quote: "In terms of devices, there's a lot out there. People can get sucked into the next best, greatest thing... They're all very supplemental but nothing really is a substitute for natural functional motion and stretching."

                                                                                  While devices and tools have their place, natural movement patterns and functional activities remain the gold standard.

                                                                                  4. Mental Health is Inseparable from Physical Health

                                                                                  Quote: "Mental health is at the forefront of everything we do in OT. Humans and living organisms, we can't be in a constant state of pain or stress."

                                                                                  There's a bidirectional relationship between chronic pain and depression—addressing one helps address the other.

                                                                                  5. Sleep Disruption Compounds Everything

                                                                                  Poor sleep due to hand pain creates a vicious cycle affecting healing, mental health, and overall function.

                                                                                  MetaFlex® Gloves Discussion
                                                                                  What Makes MetaFlex® Different

                                                                                  Quote: "It doesn't really just hold your hand in one position like maybe braces of the past or splints do, but it allows you to maintain this constant motion while you have it on. So it's really kind of a departure from those traditional hand therapy modalities and really a focus on that natural motion."

                                                                                  Learn more about the science behind this approach at Why MetaFlex® Works.

                                                                                  How It Works

                                                                                  The MetaFlex® glove is a fingerless compression glove with adjustable elastic bands running along the back of each finger. When you close your hand, the bands stretch; when you relax, they gently pull your fingers back into extension—maintaining motion rather than immobilizing.

                                                                                  For detailed information on getting the right fit, see the Fit & Sizing Guide.

                                                                                  Unexpected Clinical Applications

                                                                                  Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome: Quote: "Patients with Ehlers-Danlos, with that condition, you've got hypermobility... while stretching is contraindicated for that diagnosis, that proprioceptive input that those bands give to the joints by pulling back, they've found helpful and comforting."

                                                                                  Stroke & TBI Recovery: Quote: "For those that have low tone, or they're easily able to be passively ranged, those bands have been actually helpful in keeping those fingers open."

                                                                                  Active Assist Training: Quote: "They had a patient that was able to grip, squeeze something, but they lacked the ability to really fully open their hand... the bands actually pulled their hand fingers back when they relaxed and activated the extensors part of it. That was an adaptive tool, but also a training tool."

                                                                                  Read more clinical insights and research at the MetaFlex® Health Blog.

                                                                                  Vanderbilt Case Study

                                                                                  Justin is presenting a poster at the American Congress of Rehabilitative Medicine (ACRM) featuring a remarkable limb salvage case where MetaFlex® gloves were used as an alternative to traditional custom orthotics.

                                                                                  Quote: "She was able to actively open her hand because she didn't have the ability to open her fingers. She had flexors, but just couldn't open."

                                                                                  For more about MetaFlex®'s innovative approach and founder's story, visit the About MetaFlex® page or watch videos and read customer reviews on the Learn More page.

                                                                                  Clinical Conditions Discussed
                                                                                  1. Carpal Tunnel Syndrome - Nighttime symptom management, ergonomic factors. Read more: Managing Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
                                                                                  2. Arthritis - Pain relief, functional maintenance
                                                                                  3. Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome - Proprioceptive input, joint stabilization
                                                                                  4. Stroke (CVA) - Upper extremity recovery, low tone management
                                                                                  5. Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) - Finger extension assistance
                                                                                  6. Post-Surgical Hand Injuries - Maintaining motion during healing
                                                                                  7. Limb Salvage/Trauma - Alternative to rigid bracing
                                                                                  8. Chronic Pain with Mental Health Component - Sleep disruption, depression cycle. Read more: Stay Active in Cold Weather
                                                                                  9. For comprehensive information about MetaFlex®, see 10 Things You Should Know About the MetaFlex® Glove.

                                                                                    Therapeutic Philosophy
                                                                                    Core Principles

                                                                                    Quote: "Really going back to those principles of stretch, strengthen, really education. That's one of my focuses with Metaflex is trying to provide just general knowledge and exposure to simple ideas that can have a big impact."

                                                                                    Function Over Exercise

                                                                                    Quote: "If someone has a hand injury and let's say they're really into quilting or doing puzzles, we could do those things either using adaptive equipment or compensatory strategies, or just doing those tasks with varying levels of difficulty to increase endurance or to increase fine motor dexterity."

                                                                                    Holistic Care

                                                                                    Quote: "How do we best set that patient up or the individual up to have the highest likelihood of success is by meeting them holistically, meaning looking at all aspects of their care."

                                                                                    Upcoming Presentations & Research
                                                                                    American Congress of Rehabilitative Medicine (ACRM) - Chicago

                                                                                    Topic: Limb salvage case study featuring multidisciplinary team approach and innovative use of MetaFlex® gloves

                                                                                    Canadian Percussion Network - Canada (2025)

                                                                                    Topic: Biomechanics of drumming Exploring repetitive motion and hand health in musicians

                                                                                    Connect with Justin Stehr

                                                                                    Professional Affiliations:

                                                                                    • Vanderbilt Health - Occupational Therapy Department
                                                                                    • MetaFlex® - Clinical Consultant
                                                                                    • Certified Hand Therapist (CHT)
                                                                                    • To Find a Certified Hand Therapist: Visit HTCC.org to locate qualified hand therapy professionals in your area.

                                                                                      Professional Organizations:

                                                                                      • American Society of Hand Therapy (ASHT)
                                                                                      • American Occupational Therapy Association (AOTA)
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                                                                                        • Episode Transcript

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                                                                                          Disclaimer

                                                                                          This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

                                                                                          Credits

                                                                                          Produced by: SEO Arcade Host: Jeremy Rivera Guest: Justin Stehr, OT, CHT Episode Length: [Duration] Release Date: [Date]

                                                                                          Tags

                                                                                          #HandTherapy #OccupationalTherapy #MetaFlexGloves #CarpalTunnel #StrokeRecovery #EhlersDanlosSyndrome #ChronicPain #MentalHealth #Rehabilitation #VanderbiltHealth #HandHealth #CompressionGloves #MedicalDevices #PhysicalTherapy #PainManagement #SleepHealth #HealthcareInnovation

                                                                                          Call to Action

                                                                                          Interested in learning more about hand health and innovative therapy solutions?

                                                                                          1. Visit MetaFlex.com to learn about compression gloves with grip-strengthening technology
                                                                                          2. Check out the MetaFlex® Press Features to see award-winning coverage
                                                                                          3. Find a Certified Hand Therapist in your area at HTCC.org
                                                                                          4. Read more hand health articles at the MetaFlex® Health Blog
                                                                                          5. See what others are saying on the Learn More page with videos and customer reviews
                                                                                          6. Subscribe to the Unscripted SEO Podcast for more healthcare innovation stories
                                                                                          7. Share this episode with anyone dealing with hand pain or chronic conditions
                                                                                          8. Have questions about hand therapy or MetaFlex® gloves?

                                                                                            • Visit the MetaFlex® FAQ page for common questions
                                                                                            • Use the Store Locator to find MetaFlex® near you
                                                                                            • Contact a qualified healthcare professional to discuss whether these solutions are right for you
                                                                                            • Want to stay updated on MetaFlex® news and innovations? Follow the MetaFlex® News blog for the latest updates.

                                                                                              Special thanks to Justin Stehr for sharing his expertise and clinical insights on this episode.

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