Upcoming Trial of Nathan Chasing Horse April 14, 2025

Marina Crane reflects on the aftermath of Nathan Chasing Horse's sentencing, discussing the impact on victims and the role of Indigenous matriarchy. She also delves into the historical context of colonialism, religious indoctrination, and the importance of trust in her personal journey. Marina Crane shares her thoughts on being a witness for truth and reconciliation in Canada, emphasizing the active commitment to acknowledging the deep harms caused by the Indian residential school system. She discusses the responsibilities of a witness and the importance of supporting Indigenous-led efforts for reconciliation.

Takeaways

• Indigenous matriarchy as a source of strength and assertiveness
• The impact of historical colonialism and religious indoctrination on Indigenous communities Witnessing for truth and reconciliation is an active and ongoing commitment.
• Supporting Indigenous-led efforts is crucial for advancing reconciliation.

Chapters

• 00:00 Reflections on the Aftermath
• 06:21 Historical Context of Colonialism and Religious Indoctrination
• 16:34 The Importance of Trust in Personal Journey
• 31:39 The Role of a Witness for Truth and Reconciliation
• 40:13 The Symbolic Gift and Its Meaning
• 56:58 Lateral Violence and the Impact on Victims

The conversation delves into the impact of fawning as a trauma response and the dynamics of intergenerational trauma. It explores the experiences of abuse victims and the legacy of trauma passed down through generations, shedding light on the complexities of survival and healing. The conversation covers themes of empowerment through education, the impact of trauma and healing, addressing systemic racism, seeking justice, and the importance of cultural identity and matriarchy in Indigenous communities. It also delves into historical injustices, accountability, and the legacy of invisible helping hands in healing and community support.

Takeaways

• Fawning as a trauma response
• Impact of intergenerational trauma Empowerment through education
• Impact of trauma and healing

Chapters

• 00:00 The Impact of Fawning as a Trauma Response
• 37:46 Empowering Young Men in Criminal Justice
• 43:14 Impact of Systemic Racism
• 50:05 Releasing the Soul and Seeking Peace
• 55:32 False Prophecy and Community Healing
• 01:01:36 Systemic Racism and Indigenous Identity
• 01:08:32 Witnessing Injustice and Responsibility

The podcast explores the challenges of self-forgiveness, cultural indoctrination, power, impunity, and accountability, drawing parallels with historical and contemporary leaders. It also delves into the impact of artistic expression and psychological initiation on participants. The conversation delves into the world of performance art and the Wauwipi ceremony, exploring the themes of trauma bonding, sickness diagnosis, ritualistic surfaces, esoteric practices, the inverted mystic, and the era of numbness. It emphasizes the importance of self-forgiveness and honest reckoning in the face of trauma and societal challenges.

Takeaways

• Self-forgiveness is a challenging process
• Power and impunity can lead to a lack of accountability Performance art and the Wauwipi ceremony serve as platforms for trauma bonding and the diagnosis of sickness within the human field.
• The collapse of boundaries between private and public domains, the normalization of ritual, and the transition of private practices to public knowledge are key themes in the conversation.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Focus
• 05:59 Cultural Indoctrination and Self-Reckoning
• 11:01 Navigating Self-Forgiveness and Grace
• 17:06 Mahatma Gandhi and Parallel Leadership
• 22:11 Victim Testimonies and Accountability
• 27:55 Artistic Expression and Psychological Initiation
• 36:10 Diagnosing and Exposing Sickness
• 41:16 Ritualistic Surfaces and Boundaries
• 50:32 The Inverted Mystic and Fragility
• 55:46 The Era of Numbness and Self-Forgiveness

The conversation delves into the understanding of salience in psychosis, the formation of delusions, and the impact of childhood trauma on mental health. It emphasizes the importance of early treatment and the need for empathy and compassion in addressing mental health challenges. The conversation delves into the understanding of mental health processes and the impact of early life difficulties on individuals. It explores the need for empathy and support for those experiencing psychosis and personality disorders, as well as the importance of consistent and holistic healing in Indigenous communities.

Takeaways

• Salience in psychosis
• Understanding psychosis and delusions
• Importance of early treatment
• Impact of childhood trauma on mental health Understanding mental health processes
• The impact of early life difficulties

Chapters

• 00:00 Impact of Childhood Trauma on Mental Health
• 39:37 Understanding Mental Health Processes
• 55:22 Impact of Early Life Difficulties

The podcast covers a wide range of topics including prayer, Indigenous traditions, cultural healing, self-defeating behavior, emotional regulation, systemic betrayal, and survivor experiences. Marina shares personal reflections and insights on these topics, emphasizing the importance of cultural understanding and emotional healing. The conversation delves into topics of compassion, forgiveness, moral injury, baiting, self-defeating behavior, cultural repression, genuine intimacy, support, sexual repression, trauma and abuse, healthy human sexuality, and embracing Indigenous women. Marina shares personal experiences and insights, highlighting the impact of these themes on her life and community.

Takeaways

• Cultural healing and balance are essential for Indigenous communities
• Systemic betrayal and moral injury impact survivors of abuse
• Emotional regulation and self-defeating behavior are complex and deeply rooted in personal experiences Compassion and understanding are essential in healing from trauma and moral injury.
• Genuine intimacy is revealed in moments of vulnerability and requires safety, presence, and commitment.

Chapters

• 00:00 Podcast and Audience Reflection
• 06:05 Interviewing Survivors of Nathan Chasing Horse
• 11:08 Abuse and Betrayal in Indigenous Communities
• 17:23 Relationship with Nature and Ancestral Knowledge
• 22:46 Human Response and Adaptation
• 28:05 Rewiring Program and Emotional Regulation
• 33:26 Validation and Support in Trauma Recovery
• 49:29 Compassion and Healing
• 54:43 Baiting and Manipulation
• 01:06:18 Genuine Intimacy
• 01:17:18 Support and Commitment
• 01:23:06 Impact of Trauma and Abuse
• 01:31:38 Healthy Human Sexuality

Marina Crane shares her personal journey of trauma, healing, and self-discovery, highlighting the impact of trauma on Indigenous women and the complexities of relationships and intimacy. She discusses the deconstruction of self-defeating behavior and the cautionary tale of unhealthy attachments and limerence. Marina Crane discusses the psychological impact of trauma, limerence, and the intergenerational effects of Indian residential schools. She delves into the systemic racism, purity culture, and the importance of empowerment and choice for Indigenous youth. Marina emphasizes the survival and resilience of Indigenous people despite historical atrocities and ongoing challenges.

Takeaways

• Trauma has a profound impact on Indigenous women, making it difficult for them to heal and navigate healthy relationships.
• Understanding and deconstructing self-defeating behavior, unhealthy attachments, and limerence is crucial for personal growth and healing. Understanding the psychological impact of trauma and intergenerational trauma
• Recognizing the systemic racism and purity culture
• Empowerment and choice for Indigenous youth
• Survival and resilience of Indigenous people

Chapters

• 00:00 Navigating Trauma and Healing
• 07:22 Self-Discovery and Personal Growth
• 17:20 Deconstructing Self-Defeating Behavior
• 23:17 Interpersonal Tensions and Cautionary Tales
• 31:31 Understanding Limerence and Trauma
• 45:14 Psychological Impact of Purity Culture
• 55:15 Systemic Racism and Trust

Reflections on Indigenous Women’s Experiences: Lateral Violence, Systemic Racism, and Healing

Marina Crane’s Journey from Calgary: Conversations on Truth, Trauma, and Strength

Good afternoon, it’s Marina Crane again from Suchana First Nations on the outskirts of Calgary, Alberta, Canada. With the city of a million people as backdrop, I want to share thoughts that add to the ongoing dynamics of how Indigenous women are perceived—and the vital need to educate younger Indigenous women.

Throughout history, Indigenous women have been born and raised within systems shaped by systemic racism. Lateral violence—harm inflicted within our own communities—often emerges from these systems, compounding trauma and shaping perceptions. These notes reflect on past discussions, hoping listeners and readers gain insight.

There is a palpable sense of emotion and negativity in the air, especially as communities grapple with change. Change is difficult for many, and conversations with loved ones reveal how this struggle can affect relationships. People often resist change, sometimes projecting their feelings onto others rather than facing their own challenges.

Lateral violence can take shape on platforms like Facebook, where hurtful accusations—such as being labelled a pedophile—are spread without empathy or concern for the person affected. Rather than reporting such posts, individuals sometimes share them, fuelling gossip and causing pain. These actions reflect deeper issues within our social circles, often rooted in a lack of accountability and understanding of the impact on others.

As an Indigenous woman, keeping one’s life private and setting boundaries is a conscious effort. Gossip and denial can persist for decades, especially when those we work alongside in the community are the ones spreading harmful narratives. The ethical space—where safety and truth are valued—can be threatened by such actions, undermining the work of social change.

Systemic racism is woven deeply into the fabric of Canadian society. Historical and ongoing discrimination shapes how Indigenous women are perceived and treated. Stories of young women facing high-risk behaviours, suicide, pregnancy, and intergenerational trauma highlight the urgent need for support systems and healing ceremonies. Yet, disclosure of abuse or harm is often met with silence or denial, further perpetuating cycles of harm.

Healing is a lifelong journey. Conversations about healthy human sexuality, boundaries, and abstinence challenge harmful stereotypes and encourage openness. Elders can offer valuable guidance, stressing the importance of addressing these issues early in life. Healing requires surfacing buried emotions and processing past behaviour, rather than projecting pain onto others.

Family relationships are complex, especially when affected by lateral violence, cult dynamics, or conflicting narratives. Children and youth often return to their families seeking connection and support, only to find parents struggling with addiction, trauma, or systemic barriers. The importance of being healthy, present, and supportive for the next generation resonates strongly throughout these reflections.

Indigenous women face unique challenges, often navigating racism from both outside and within their communities. Misconceptions and stereotypes persist, including harmful assumptions about sexuality, relationships, and cultural identity. Experiences with systemic racism in healthcare, education, and social services underscore the need for advocacy, truth-telling, and resilience.

These notes capture the experiences and reflections of Marina Crane, highlighting her advocacy work, the challenges faced, and the profound effects of trauma and defamation within Indigenous communities.

Marina Crane recounts her initial uncertainty about the reach of her blog. For two decades, she received minimal feedback, occasional phone calls, and rare updates, but rarely any emails. She shares an instance when someone from Saskatchewan claimed to be a victim of Nathan Chasing Horse. Marina, discerning inconsistencies in the story, chose not to publish the account, emphasizing her commitment to honesty and integrity in her updates.

Throughout her blogging journey, Marina faced disbelief and accusations from Nathan Chasing Horse's followers, who were manipulated to distrust her. For many years, she was unaware her blog was being read by people outside her immediate circle. When she visited Las Vegas on March 11th, she met individuals from California, Montana, New Mexico, and Arizona who credited her blog with helping them reconsider their support for Nathan Chasing Horse.

Marina discusses the importance of her podcast, which reaches individuals experiencing trauma or dealing with family crises. She stresses the necessity of confronting trauma rather than ignoring it, warning that unresolved trauma can lead to compounded issues and hinder one's ability to grieve or care for oneself. She emphasizes that discussing abuse reveals its widespread nature and prompts individuals to process and confront it, even as they remain true to their identity.

Marina draws parallels between the experiences of Black Canadians and Indigenous peoples, illustrating how systemic racism persists regardless of socioeconomic status. She advocates for developing gender psychology and curricula for Indigenous girls, aimed at fostering informed choices and preventing manipulation, grooming, and trafficking. She questions how support workers can create safe environments for youth when dangers may exist within their own homes.

Survivors described feeling manipulated and unaware of their involvement with Nathan Chasing Horse. Marina shares anecdotes about being misrepresented, including being accused of being a "cougar" or having inappropriate relationships, despite her age and status. She highlights the emotional impact of having family members and community members fail to defend her against such defamation.

Marina underscores the importance of educating Indigenous youth about historical events such as Bill C-30 and the ways Indian agents groomed members of their communities. She advocates for academic and counselling support to prevent vulnerability, particularly when home environments are unsafe due to parental dysfunction or mental health issues. She recounts the courage required to confront one's own trauma, noting it took her twenty years to report sexual assault and face her truth.

Marina describes the persistent defamation of her character on social media, including accusations involving her granddaughter. She details the heartbreak of not being defended by her own family and the perpetuation of false narratives. She reflects on the cyclical nature of abuse within families, including the emotional abuse suffered by her niece and the physical intimidation experienced by another relative.

Marina shares experiences with tobacco offerings and the expectations placed on Indigenous elder women when invited to pray or participate in ceremonies. She emphasizes the need for organizers to protect elders from misogyny

Marina reflects on the trauma experienced during the Las Vegas events, the importance of social media in empowering survivors, and the need to celebrate the courage of those who left the cult. She emphasizes that advocacy and storytelling can save lives and encourages ongoing support and planning for positive change within Indigenous communities.

Listening I've mentioned March 11 as a time of battle fatigue and when you listen I've mistakenly said November 11. My apologies to Veterans Day and Veterans. Debriefing is an emotional process and I meant to say March 11, 2026...

The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including personal experiences, trauma, Indigenous culture, relationships, and human sexuality. It delves into the complexities of working with non-Indigenous people, the impact of childhood trauma, and the challenges faced by Indigenous women. The narrative also explores the dynamics of family relationships, the consequences of abuse, and the need for education on healthy human sexuality. The conversation delves into the deep-rooted issues of intergenerational trauma, ritual abuse, systemic racism, and the struggle of Indigenous women. It also highlights the challenges faced by women in society and the impact of gender psychology on their experiences. Marina Crane discusses the challenges and sacrifices of being an Indigenous elder, the impact of her advocacy, and the importance of supporting and empowering Indigenous women and children. She also shares her experiences with trauma, resilience, and the need for celebration amidst adversity.

Takeaways

• Indigenous culture and the impact of childhood trauma
• Challenges faced by Indigenous women
• The need for education on healthy human sexuality Intergenerational trauma and ritual abuse have deeply impacted Indigenous communities
• The struggle of Indigenous women and the impact of systemic racism and gender psychology on their experiences Indigenous advocacy comes with sacrifice
• Support and empowerment of Indigenous women and children are crucial

Chapters

• 00:00 Navigating the Unknown
• 06:00 Dealing with Childhood Trauma and its Implications
• 11:53 Supporting Victims and Understanding Human Sexuality
• 22:33 Intergenerational Trauma and Ritual Abuse
• 41:56 Struggle of Indigenous Women and Systemic Racism
• 59:11 Gender Psychology and Women's Experiences
• 01:07:55 The Ripple Effect on Indigenous Women and Families

The conversation covers topics such as legal delays and sentencing, community healing and advocacy, racial battle fatigue and activism, narcissism and delayed reporting, oppression dynamics and internalized oppression, systemic racism and patriarchy, the impact of colonialism on Indigenous women, healthy sexuality and relationships, intergenerational impact of colonialism and patriarchy, and challenges of advocacy and systemic racism. The conversation delves into the understanding of privilege and oppression dynamics, the impact of Indian Residential Schools, the legal system and its impact on victims, support and healing for victims, and the unrealized recommendations and solutions from historical reports. The discussion also touches on trauma bonds and the Indigenous experience.

Takeaways

• Racial battle fatigue
• Narratives and activism
• Internalized oppression
• Healthy sexuality and relationships
• Colonial impact on Indigenous women Understanding privilege
• Impact of historical reports

Chapters

• 00:00 Challenges of Advocacy and Systemic Racism
• 37:10 Understanding Privilege and Oppression Dynamics
• 42:22 Impact of Indian Residential Schools
• 47:35 Legal System and Victim Impact
• 53:01 Support and Healing for Victims
• 01:08:06 Unrealized Recommendations and Solutions