Upside

For the week's latest news behind the headlines affecting European Venture, startups and investing.  

Hosts: Dan Bowyer, Lomax Ward Guest: Eyal Malinger — Co-founder, Resurge Growth Partners (venture equity — the gap between VC and PE)

[02:18] Humanoid Robots at China's Spring Festival Gala Four Chinese firms showed off cable-free dancing robots. Eyal's reaction progression: "game over" → "Clone Wars" → "why are there swords near children?" China controls ~90% of humanoid shipments. H1/G1 robots going for $6-10K. Europe has… Neuro Robotics and OverSonic at Series A. Cool.

[05:59] Will Robots Replace Soldiers? Eyal: if you don't need to risk soldiers, you will use them. Lomax: nukes still deter total war, but skirmishes could proliferate. Everyone: yes, we'd have a robot butler. Lomax: depends on the price (he lives in Portugal).

[10:57] Raspberry Pi — Europe's First Meme Stock? Stock pumped after CEO bought shares + Reddit hype around OpenClaw. Trading at ~£600M. Edge AI debate ensues. Lomax: "Isn't this a time to celebrate Europe finally has its own meme stock?"

[14:36] AI Causing a Fuss: Anthropic vs The Pentagon Anthropic doesn't want autonomous kill decisions. Eyal channels Palantir's Alex Karp: "Our adversaries will not pause for theatrical debate." Lomax: Dario wants to have his cake and eat it. Everyone broadly agrees ethics are a luxury when the other side doesn't play by the rules.

[17:19] Peter Steinberger Leaves Europe for OpenAI Created OpenClaw, Europe celebrated for two weeks, then he bounced to San Francisco. Lomax: "I thought things had got better." Dan: who in Europe could've called him? Eyal: if he'd been in London instead of Austria, maybe different story. Cue weekly EU ecosystem lament. Macron pledged €30M for AI. Anthropic just raised $30B. Right.

[24:00] VC AI Toolkits — David Stark Open-Sources His Setup WhatsApp meeting briefs, auto-transcription, deal flow into HubSpot. Lomax calls it "cute." Eyal: most of this is just Zapier with extra steps. Real alpha = agentic AI that sources and approaches founders autonomously. Dan: if everyone has Harmonic, nobody has alpha.

[31:00] Munich Security Conference Recap 62nd edition. Rubio slightly less abrasive than JD Vance (low bar). Merz says the old order is over. Starmer accelerating UK defence spend to 3%. Stark (drones) raised big from Founders Fund — German defence minister uncomfortable with Peter Thiel on the cap table. Sovereignty debates continue. Lomax: "You can't tell Europe to be sovereign then beat them for being sovereign."

[37:56] Health & Bio Good News Compass Pathways nails second Phase 3 trial for synthetic psilocybin treating resistant depression — could be on market by 2027. Savo Health working on non-invasive CGM patches (goodbye arm claws).

[39:56] Deals of the Week

• Quantonation — largest European quantum fund ever
• Ineffable — $1B seed (!!) at $4B pre-money, led by Sequoia. David Silver (AlphaGo architect) leaves DeepMind
• Netflix / Warner Bros M&A — Eyal hopes it signals FTC/DOJ reopening the exit valve for VC and PE

[42:30] Fin. 🎙️

01:52 - Anthropic's Insane $30B Round Started as $10B rumour, became $20B in January, closed at $30B. 

03:21 - The Great Model Migration Sam finally kicked OpenAI off his iPhone homepage. Claude's in. 

08:23 - Claude Code: Mads' Love Letter Mads hasn't looked back since discovering Claude Code's skills and agentic workflows. It's not just better writing anymore—it's a whole different way of working.

09:36 - HBR Report: AI Makes Us Work MORE Generative AI isn't reducing work, it's intensifying it. Turns out when you can do everything yourself, you just... do everything yourself. Constant dopamine hits. 

14:07 - AI as Your Second Opinion Mads fed his DNA and blood work to an LLM. 

19:38 - Alphabet's 100-Year Bond Google just raised £5B more than expected. Priced like government bonds. Too big to fail, baby. 

22:59 - Your Pension is Funding US Hyperscalers €35 trillion in European savings. None of these pension holders know they're financing 100-year bonds for Google. The rules say "minimise volatility," not "maximise returns." Cool cool cool.

26:31 - European Sovereignty: Words → Action? Merz and von der Leyen saying the quiet parts loud. Two-tier EU? 28th regime? Ignoring planning rules? Also Mistral going from $25M to $400M run rate with a full sovereign stack (no US tech).

27:31 - "What Even Is an AI Business?" If you're not using AI for what you're doing... what ARE you doing? Material science? Better use AI. Biotech? Better use AI. 

30:32 - The Only Office Suite Update Was Google European governments spend billions yearly on decades-old Microsoft IP. Open source alternatives exist. Nobody cares.

31:28 - Mistral: Not Dead, Actually Dan had written them off. Turns out they're crushing it with enterprise. Not a chatbot play—it's consultancy + transformation + Anthropic-level models. 

34:50 - The China Manufacturing Model, Reversed German manufacturers using Chinese AI for factories? Probability: nil to zero. Regional fragmentation + massive AI growth = very large companies serving regional markets.

35:42 - Europe Finally Saying It Out Loud Von der Leyen threatening breakaway subset unless countries get on board. Big words from the "protein" European government. Tax attempts always flounder but... momentum feels different?

38:07 - Space: Orbex Down, Data Centres Up? UK's Orbex (low-carbon micro launcher) filed for administration. £49M debt. Government didn't support. Meanwhile: Elon eyeing Google's orbital data centre research. 

40:45 - Billionaires Should Burn Capital McCalip's plea: goad more billionaires into irrational high-variance projects that advance civilisation. "No one cares about your Loro Piana." Build cathedrals. Fund ugly metal. Light up corners of the future.

42:00 - Europe's Launch Problem No European small launcher has reached orbit. Not one. Airbus worked because we collaborated. Launch requires same logic. "We are mid-sized countries pretending we're still empires."

43:15 - Fusion: Europe's Real Shot? Should Europe double down on quantum and fusion instead of chasing AI? Mads: "Fix capital markets union first." Everything circles back.

45:04 - Deal of the Week: Olix 25-year-old British founder James de Combe raised £220M at $1B+ valuation for AI inference chips. Also runs Comind (raised £100M as a teenager). Is this our Elon without the red cap?

46:22 - Upside Closeout "Nothing happens until somebody decides to do something." More entrepreneurs. Less standing in their way. 

Hosted by Dan Bowyer & Mads Jensen Guest: Sam Marchant

Upside captures all of the week's news affecting European Venture.

01:22 — AI models: two flagships drop 20 minutes apart
Anthropic ships Opus 4.6; OpenAI replies with GPT 5.3.
Key tension: best model vs stickiest workflow (tooling + habits = raw benchmarks).
China keeps coming: Kimi K2.5, Qwen3 Max — strong performance at lower cost, plus “swarm”/multi-agent vibes.

07:02 — Recursive AI + security flex
OpenAI: “GPT 5.3 helped build itself” (debugging training pipeline).
Anthropic: claims model found 500+ serious open-source security issues → “bots find bugs better than eyeballs.”

11:06 — Alphabet CapEx shock
Alphabet expected $180B CapEx in 2026 → market flinches despite earnings beat.
Take: hyperscalers signalling capacity constraint and “you ain’t seen nothing yet.”
Debate: monster spend now vs how long monetisation takes (ads, pricing, enterprise budgets).

18:53 — “SaaSpocalypse”
~$300B wiped off software stocks on fear that seat-based SaaS collapses into usage/agent-driven economics.
Claude Code “agentic workflows” spook the market: if models do the work, why pay the tool tax?
Counterpoint: SaaS doesn’t die—it de-rates (from “growth multiple” to “utility multiple”).
Lomax: market likely overcorrecting; enterprise adoption is slow and messy.

26:07 — EU–US tech uncoupling (or… vibes?)
France moves to ban civil servants from Zoom/Teams/WebEx → pushes homegrown “Visio” by 2027.
Germany (Schleswig-Holstein) + Austrian army shifting off Microsoft to open-source alternatives.
Group take: sovereignty goal is real, but government-built software ≠ winning strategy; better to back founders + procurement pathways.

32:44 — Spain vs social media
Pedro Sánchez pushes: CEO accountability, misinformation/hate speech enforcement, under-16 social restriction.
Smart framing: shifts from “free speech” to public health.
Pushback: slippery slope risk → censorship-by-proxy debate.

39:20 — Muskonomics: SpaceX + xAI + “data centres in space”
Core claim gets roasted: physics/energy/cooling/payload/latency all feel brutal.
Bull case (Lomax): if anyone can brute-force iterate at scale, it’s Musk + launch cadence.
Bear case (Mads): narrative may be a financial wrapper to justify merging/funding xAI via SpaceX halo.

51:10 — Anthropic Super Bowl ads + OpenAI shade
Anthropic pokes OpenAI over ads in AI (“we’d never”).
Take: brand landgrab + positioning move; debate whether the ads were funny or cringe.

53:52 — Europe corner: critical minerals reality check
EU auditor warns Critical Raw Materials Act targets likely missed (dependency on China still extreme).
Problem isn’t geology—it’s permitting + processing + time (10–20 years to mine/start).
US hosts rare earth summit; Europe tries to coordinate while still exporting heavily to the US.

56:53 — Deal of the Week
Lomax’s portfolio: Portuguese founder Pedro building LLM-driven clinical trial planning → reduces protocol amendments/costs.
Raises $52.5M Series A (one of Iberia’s biggest; top-tier EU Series A scale).
Dan: January saw 5 new European unicorns (Aikido shoutout highlighted).
Mads: new European growth fund Cambara targeting €30–50M checks; €750M raised toward €1B.

00:59 — Saudi surprises, NEOM shrinks, Vision 2030 = Europe takes notes.
02:58 — Europe: zero vibes, zero mission.
03:55 — War bonds?! Saudi winter games postponed. Reality intrudes.

🤖 AI Corner

07:32 — Clawdbot → Moltbot now OpenClaw?! AI intern… with admin rights.
09:19 — Early wins: negotiates car deals, plans diets, orders Tesco shops.
10:38 — Early fear: unconstrained agents + inbox access = mild terror.
12:22 — It wakes itself up and takes action. Cool. Also horrifying.
13:17 — Security stories emerge. Nobody gives it their bank login (yet).

💰 AI Mega-Rounds

14:19 — SoftBank doubles down on OpenAI. Masa swings hard. Again.
16:06 — Anthropic: hotter growth, $20bn round chatter, IPO whispers.
16:50 — OpenAI ads incoming. Users threaten to… switch? Maybe.

🧠 China Swarms

18:01 — Moonshot drops “Swarm” models: 100 agents, one brain.
19:34 — Parallel thinking = faster, not cheaper. Tokens go brrrr.
20:55 — Open source as geopolitical side-eye.

📊 Earnings Season

21:40 — ASML prints money: AI capex not slowing, China still ~20%.
23:05 — Memory beats logic: HBM crunch, chipmakers fully booked.
25:38 — Meta vs Microsoft: ads + AI good, capex + slowing Azure bad.
26:44 — Tesla: sales, “physical AI” story saves the stock.
30:22 — Klarna –30%: credit nerves. Everyone shrugs.

🇪🇺 Europe, Again

32:19 — “United States of Europe?” Telegraph panics. Reality unimpressed.
35:15 — Europe only moves when scared enough. Not there yet.
39:35 — Integration: go wide, go deep, or argue forever.
43:05 — Starmer in China: finance, vibes, low expectations.
43:21 — EU–India deal > UK deals. Market size still matters.

🪖 Defence

45:49 — Europe rearms: drones, satellites, ISR, startups rejoice.
51:21 — US spends ~$900bn; Europe debates what it actually needs.
53:09 — Bull case: Ukraine = Europe’s defence tech lab.

📱 Society

54:23 — Social media bans for kids: messy science, real concern.
56:47 — US sues, EU regulates. Meta lawyers busy.
59:21 — Design-choice lawsuits = tobacco vibes.

🧾 Deals

1:01:34 — UK plans to train 10m people in AI. Ambitious. Necessary.
1:03:12 — Deal of the Week: Sword Health buys Kaia for $285m. 
1:04:24 — Synthesia hits ~$4bn. Regret levels spike.
1:04:45 — Wrap. Brains emptied. See you next week.

01:35–10:24 — UK data centres: blocked… but a way through

A £1bn London-area data-centre project gets halted after a planning/EIA mess-up → delays of 9–12+ months, potentially worse.

The twist: data centres are being upgraded to “nationally significant infrastructure,” enabling central-government fast-track (DCO route) instead of local NIMBY planning.

Still: EIAs + judicial reviews can keep slowing everything down. Core complaint: the system keeps “deciding whether to build” after we’ve already decided we must.

10:24–20:01 — Davos: in a fractured world, can middle powers go solo?

Big takeaway: the old global order isn’t coming back. Middle powers doing bilateral deals risk being picked off one-by-one. The only viable strategy is bigger blocs + coordination.

On AI/robotics: Europe shouldn’t obsess over winning foundation models; the opportunity is physical AI (robotics, manufacturing, automation) layered onto Europe’s engineering base—if politics and fragmentation don’t smother it.

20:01–22:22 — AI vs jobs: don’t overkill the headline

Entry-level postings are down since early 2023, but the consensus here is: macro + rates explain most of it. AI will reshuffle work (especially junior/clerical tasks), but mass unemployment isn’t the base case.

22:22–27:46 — EU Inc / “28th regime”: real momentum and real resistance

EU Inc aims to make a pan-EU startup entity that’s fast/cheap to set up (48 hours, no minimum capital), plus simpler ESOPs (ideally tax deferred until liquidity).

The fight now: Regulation vs Directive

• Regulation = uniform + immediate, but needs unanimity
• Directive = easier, but invites delay + fragmentation

Expect pushback framed around labour standards and “race-to-the-bottom” fears.

27:46–34:51 — Has China already won AI?

Reframe “winning”: it’s not god-like AI dominance; it’s economic + military power with AI as a lever. Models converge fast, advantages erode, and the “months not years” gap matters.

Europe’s real risk is strategic irrelevance unless it scales power: capital markets, energy, defence capacity, and political cohesion (with a nod to the UK needing to be onside).

34:51–39:30 — US science funding “collapse”: brutal in pockets, not total

Big cuts and cancellations are real—especially in politically sensitive areas—but most US R&D is private sector, and defence-linked R&D keeps growing. Europe is trying to attract researchers, but this doesn’t yet look like a permanent talent migration.

39:30–43:13 — SaaS: dead? no? trapped?

SaaS faces a fork:

1. Mature into a cash machine (cut bloat, optimise margins), or
2. Become a “system of context” by embedding AI/agents deeply

Why the pain: ZIRP-era bloat + expensive orgs + incentive traps.
 Bright spot: incumbents with distribution are already monetising AI add-ons at meaningful ARR.

43:13–45:47 — Defence IPO era: the Overton window moved

A blockbuster European defence IPO becomes the poster child for a broader trend: defence re-rated, ESG lines shifting, and a growing pipeline as European defence budgets rise for the next decade.

45:47–47:02 — Quick hits

Billion-scale European fund raise gets a shout-out. More big AI deals bubbling. New fund launch focused on robotics/manufacturing, positioned as aligned with what Europe needs next.

BBC yeets kids shows onto YouTube, EU does a mega trade deal, Open Cosmos tries to be European-ish Starlink, Meta buys nuclear vibes, UK bins digital IDs (again), Anthropic’s “CoWork”, Grok vs governments, plus Deals of the Week.
Basically: geopolitics, space, energy, AI, and British admin disintegration.

(00:34) BBC on YouTube: “iPlayer walked so Netflix could run”

• Dan: YouTube is enormous; BBC is adapting for younger audiences (and maybe… survival mode).
• Mads: iPlayer was genuinely visionary; regulators stopped BBC going too commercial back then.
• Andrew: Stop geo-blocking. Just take my money. (“Not in your region” = crime.)

(02:51) EU–Mercosur trade deal: 25 years, 700M people, farmers furious

• Biggest-ever EU trade deal: Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay. (03:30)
• Why now: EU wants options beyond US gridlock + China dependence.

(06:07) Open Cosmos: “EU Starlink?” …Not quite, but it’s something

• Takeaway: not a consumer Starlink clone; more “secure, sovereign comms” for governments. (07:56–08:32)

(08:32) Meta’s 20-year nuclear power deals: AI runs on electricity (and contracts)

• Hyperscalers locking in long-term nuclear PPAs in the US; Europe stuck with slower buildout, planning pain, and NIMBY boss fights.

(10:12) UK drops digital IDs: “25 incompatible IDs is the national strategy”

• Mads: Digital ID is foundational (identity + access). Most OECD countries have it; UK is the holdout. (10:45–12:14)
• UK backlash feels emotional; we already have loads of IDs that don’t talk to each other.
• Cost debate: rollout ~£2bn-ish vs long-term fraud reduction. (13:33–13:48)

(15:35) Anthropic CoWork: “built in 10 days… by Claude Code”

• CoWork: “Claude Code for knowledge workers” — chat UI + sandboxed VM. (19:31)
• It’s early/buggy, but the meta-point is wild: AI building AI products at startup speed. (18:17–18:34)

(20:30) Yann LeCun “world models”: why LLMs aren’t the whole story

• LLMs can talk; they don’t understand physics.
• Four buckets: video prediction, interactive simulators (e.g. “move left/right”), physics engines, and latent world models (JEPA). (22:41–23:27)
• Robot “pick and place” success rate cited as a compelling signal for JEPA. (23:27–24:15)

(28:13) Grok: sexualised imagery = policy grenade

• Group consensus: when it’s minors, “platform self-policing” isn’t cutting it.

(32:19) JPM Health conference: biotech meets the LLM invasion

• Nvidia + Eli Lilly: $1B partnership for AI drug discovery. (33:28)
• Big pharma facing $200–$300B revenue going off-patent → likely acquisitions spree. (33:28–33:53)
• Torch acquisition: “unified medical memory” pulling from records/wearables/visits. (36:54–37:10)
• Cool paper alert: stroke triage via CT platform cuts transfer time by 64 minutes; “2M brain cells die per minute.” (38:57–39:25)

(42:19) Deals of the Week — “capital markets therapy session”

• Quantinuum files confidentially for IPO; quantum + encryption randomness today, “R&D roadmap” tomorrow. (42:32–43:52)
• Aikido Security (Ghent) hits unicorn: $60M Series B led by DST. (46:41–47:05)
• Parloa (Germany, call centre automation): $350M Series D @ $3B, six months after Series C. (46:41–47:05)
• Equal1 (Ireland, UCD spinout): $60M for quantum servers in data centers. (47:20)
• Harmattan AI (France, drones): €200M Series B @ €1.4B, Dassault invested; supplying drones incl. UK Army contract mentions. (47:36–48:12)

Hosts: Dan Bowyer, Lomax Ward, Mads Jensen

Episode summary

This week we cover Trump’s Greenland rhetoric and the broader implications for NATO, European defence spending, and sovereignty. Then we dive into the tech and markets that (quietly) moved: Meta’s acquisition of Manus, Octopus/“Kraken” spinning out as a major energy-software player, Discord’s IPO momentum, Revolut’s Turkey expansion via license acquisition, and why UK pensions are underperforming (plus what reform could actually fix). We finish with a big CES-driven AI corner—Nvidia’s autonomous-driving stack “Alpamayo,” the China compute/memory bottleneck, AMD vs Nvidia software moats, Grok’s enormous fundraise, and why Claude Code is showing up even inside Google.

Topics
00:37 OpenAI “Health ChatGPT” launches (not in Europe) — what’s the deal?
02:26 FDA signals faster AI regulation: “move at the speed of Silicon Valley”
08:10 Trump + Greenland: history, Thule, and where’s the grift?
11:29 Pax Americana cracks
16:10 France: ban social media under-15s
18:21 EU regulation vs US deregulation: wedge widens
21:06 Meta buying Manus
22:27 Kraken (Octopus) spinout: big UK tech hiding in plain sight
25:02 IPO watch: Discord momentum + how it monetises
26:15 Revolut → Turkey via FUPS: buying access and licenses globally
29:19 UK pensions: underperformance + pushback on forced private allocations
31:57 Why pensions underperform
39:09 German dentists pension lawsuit + “shrimp farm VC” cautionary tale
40:27 Markets: FTSE hits 10,000 + quietly outperforms S&P
43:15 Biotech rebound + psychedelics
47:02 CES 2026... 
48:05 Nvidia’s “Alpamayo”: full autonomy stack + open models/data
50:34 Nvidia vertical apps vs chips: execution risk outside core semis
52:07 China + H200s: memory bottlenecks and geopolitics of compute supply
53:20 AMD vs Nvidia: the CUDA/software moat
54:35 Grok raises: $20B at $230B
56:44 Claude Code: adoption even inside Google
57:25 Deals of the week: Faculty exit to Accenture
59:47 Biographica raises to build next-gen crop tech

Notable moments / quotables

• “The only people using cash or violence to negotiate are mobsters.” (12:32)
• “It’s super easy to get autonomy to 99%… the last 1% takes 10 years.” (48:52, referenced)
• “Much better to pay 2% to deliver 15% than 0.1% to deliver 1%.” (30:25)

Deal of the week

• Lomax: Faculty reportedly sold to Accenture (UK AI/enterprise decision intelligence)
• Dan: Kraken spun out of Octopus Energy (energy metering + grid/flows platform)
• Mads: Biographica raises to build technology for next-gen, more resilient crops

Guests: Dan Bowyer, Mads Jensen, Lomax Ward and Dan Gray

Part 1 — 2025 predictions: what hit, what missed?

02:59 — OpenAI “dethroned”: debate, but mostly “yes”

04:47 — China/Taiwan “decisive year”: mostly no

05:46 — Defence tech surge: yes

06:46 — Europe/UK tech sovereignty: yes-ish but hard to measure

07:25 — Space enabling tech keeps attracting capital: yes

07:30 — US recession H2 2025: nope

09:07 — Stock correction early 2025: correct-ish

09:45 — M&A rebounds: yes

10:24 — IPO window reopens: yes-ish

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Part 2 — 2026 predictions (with yardsticks)

11:29 — (1) Dan Gray: “European Re-industrialisation”

Big industrial families + family offices start allocating more directly into innovation (seen around Munich/TUM).

13:11 — (2) Dan Bowyer: “Apple wins personal AI”

Dan bets 2026 is Apple’s “Siri actually works” year—especially via on-device models + partnerships (Google mentioned).

16:35 — (3) Mads: “3 major tech IPOs”

From this list: SpaceX, Databricks, Canva, Anduril, Anthropic — pick 3/5.
Mads goes big on Anthropic growth + enterprise leadership.
Dan Gray adds: IPOs cluster; post-IPO M&A often spikes; real test is 6–9 months later.

19:08 — (4) Lomax: “Biotech comes back from the dead”

Biotech rally underway (XBI up hard off lows).

24:39 — (5) Dan Gray: “Politics kills the 28th regime”

He doubts a single EU incorporation regime survives politics, but suggests a workaround:

28:51 — (6) Mads: “Chinese open-source AI hits 60% of downloads”

Notes China open-source share ~44% by end of 2025 (per the conversation), and cites growing adoption of open-source models in startups.

30:11 — (7) Lomax: “Longevity clinics go from boutique → (somewhat) mainstream”

Thesis: preventative, subscription-style health scales (Neko, Function Health examples).

33:31 — (8) Mads: “EU expands tariffs on Chinese goods beyond EVs”

Europe stops pretending tariffs are morally evil, and starts protecting industrial base more aggressively (supply chain breadth and/or higher rates).

34:50 — (9) Mads: “No AGI in 2026”

AGI definition mess continues.

40:19 — (10) Lomax: “Cyber becomes a clear and present threat”

AI lowers cost of recon, phishing, persistence; cyber as statecraft sits below “war thresholds.”

43:14 — Bonus (Mads): Robotaxis

Waymo keeps lead in the West (incl. London expansion/testing), Tesla makes progress but stays behind.

With European VCs Lomax, Mads, Andrew and Dan

2025 year-in-review for European tech: capital, unicorns, geopolitics, AI, health, defence, and space space spaaaace.

01:25 – European tech in numbers

• $45bn into European startups (flat vs 2023–24, still ~½ of 2021 peak).
• 28 new unicorns in 2025 (up from 14 in 2024).
• US dominates: ~$250bn private tech funding.
• VC fundraising still tight (~$10bn into European funds).
• Exits are back: Wiz–Google, Klarna IPO, SMG IPO.

04:16 – 2025 in one sentence

• Dan: “Extreme volatility.”
• Lomax: “The final nail in globalisation.”
• Mads: “China became a true peer to the US.”
• Andrew: “Shipping fast beat gold-plated tech.”

05:49 – Most exciting tech moments

• Mads: Claude Code, Chinese open-source AI, ASML–Mistral deal.
• Lomax: Wiz’s $32bn cash exit.
• Andrew: 6G moves from lab to real specs.

08:39 – Darwin Awards (biggest screw-ups)

• Dan: Meta / Zuckerberg.
• Lomax: The entire EU institutional stack.
• Mads: Europe exporting founders to the US (incentive failure).
• Andrew: Rachel Reeves & UK growth policy.

11:59 – What smart people got wrong

• Mads: GPU bans didn’t stop China—backfired.
• Lomax: AI bubble didn’t burst.
• Dan: Investors piling blindly into defence.
• Andrew: LLMs are “dial-up,” not the endgame.

16:42 – Why 2025 was a good year

• Europe got a massive wake-up call (Dan).
• 4 new European decacorns (Lomax).
• Founders kept building despite chaos (Mads).
• VC rediscovered deep tech & hardware (Andrew).

21:23 – Geopolitics: a less naive world

• Globalisation fragmenting into blocs.
• Trust replaced by “trust but verify.”
• Sovereignty = opportunity for European founders (AI, defence, energy).

34:30 – AI Corner: the year AI got real

• DeepSeek shock wipes ~$600bn off Nvidia (Jan).
• Claude Code: $1bn ARR in ~6 months.
• Google Gemini comeback beats rivals on benchmarks.
• China dominates open-source AI.
• Rise of VLAs (Vision-Language-Action models) → physical AI, robotics.
• Big question for 2026: “Are we the horses?”

47:44 – Health & bio highlights

• GLP-1s everywhere: diabetes → cardio, kidney, neuro.
• Sales ~$62bn, heading toward $120bn+.
• Preventative health clinics scale (Function, Neko).
• Biotech rebounds; AI-designed drugs hit Phase 2.
• Psychedelics back: AbbVie deal, mental health momentum.

56:51 – Defence & space

• Modern warfare now rewards fast shipping founders.
• Global launch cadence: every ~1.5 days.
• Space shifts from experimentation → permanent infrastructure.
• Blue Origin finally launches New Glenn; SpaceX eyes Mars (again).

Upside is a weekly pod that looks at the global news headlines and works out what really matters for European tech, venture, startups and investing.

With European VCs - Lomax Ward, Dan Bowyer and Mads Jensen

What’s on the docket this week:

•SpaceX mega-raise / IPO noise: “what are you really buying?”

•“Europe’s euro success”: North–South polarity flipping

•China’s $1T+ goods trade surplus + what it means for Europe

•US defence spend reality check

•AI corner: chips, models, and AI bubble chatter

00:44 — Is DeepMind a “UK business”?

02:07 — Sovereignty is back baby!

•In defence / strategic sectors, cap table sovereignty now affects outcomes.

•Mentioned: UK rules requiring government consent in certain sectors (context: national security screening).

03:18 — DeepMind × UK DSIT partnership

•New partnership + UK research lab expansion; tied to the AI Security Institute and public services.

06:20 — AI tutor moment (education-focused Gemini)

•Vision: curriculum-grounded AI tutor as a once-in-a-generation lever for education.

08:56 — SpaceX: IPO in 2026? Raise ~ $30B? Valuation talk: $1.5T

•Why IPO now if private markets still open? Answer: scale + capital needs + timing.

◦Starlink: fast-growing, high-margin connectivity “golden goose”

14:18 — The “rest of the valuation”: orbital data centres thesis

•Speculative upside: compute in orbit (solar intensity, cooling, vacuum data transmission).

•Reality check: today’s revenue is tiny; power + mass constraints are brutal.

•Europe lens: founder talent often needs the US ecosystem to build at this frontier.

20:02 — Europe gets hit from both sides: US + China

•US signals Western Europe is lower priority; more warmth to Central/Eastern Europe (per discussion).

•China’s exports keep powering ahead; tariffs leak via third-country routing.

25:45 — Musk vs EU + the single-market problem

•Musk lobs political grenades after X/EU regulatory action (context: DSA).

•Core structural issue raised: no true EU single market in financial services → higher friction + lost productivity.

29:17 — Defence spending

•Warning to VCs: commitments don’t equal budgets landing now.

•Startup mismatch: defence procurement cycles vs 18–24 month funding cadence.

32:19 — AI corner: “bubble” talk + positioning

•Institutions trimming exposure at the margin, but not fleeing.

•View expressed: still upside runway, despite concentration and risk-off hedging.

33:44 — Europe W: Mistral open-sources DevStral 2 (coding model)

•Narrative: Europe “back in the open-source game.”

•Contrast: Meta reportedly leaning toward a closed model strategy (“Avocado” mentioned).

35:23 — Chips geopolitics: Nvidia H200s, China domestic ramp

•Thesis: export controls accelerate Chinese domestic chip ecosystems.

•Mentions: Huawei Ascend; Moore Threads momentum (plus broader “self-reliance” logic).

38:18 — Deal of the week: Unconventional AI — $475M seed