In this episode hosts Darren and Nico chat to all round pensions industry legend Sally Bridgeland.

Tune in to find out how Margaret Thatcher encouraged Sally to get on her bike, how James Bond style space lasers are nearing reality, and how Sally got into pensions (inducing a discussion on sexism in the city and some of the barriers that Sally and others face). We discussed the People's Pensions new RI policy, Pensions Bee research covering investment in tech giants and why actuaries can't count.

We also, of course, chat about what Value for Money means to Sally.