Legal Support Professional of the Year Phoebe Macdougall has spent the last few years living in a van, migrating up and down the Northern Beaches of Sydney. Such a life has taught her that one does not need to work ridiculous hours to have a waterfront property.

In this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy is joined by NSW Public Defenders Office legal support officer and recent law graduate Phoebe Macdougall about what van life entails, how it supports her holistic wellbeing, the lessons learned for her life and career.

They also chat about how such a lifestyle has provided Phoebe with a unique perspective on what it means to be a legal professional, and why other lawyers should consider a more minimalist, nomadic lifestyle – particularly in the looming "new normal".

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