Vision Pros

Matt Birchler joins Tim Chaten to breakdown and discuss all of the announcements at WWDC 2024 including visionOS 2, iOS 18, tvOS 18, watchOS 11, iPadOS 18, macOS Sequoia, and Apple Intelligence.

This episode of Vision Pros is sponsored by Agenda, the award winning app that seamlessly integrates calendar events into your note taking. Learn more at www.agenda.com. Agenda 19 is now available as a free download on visionOS, iPadOS, iOS, and macOS. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://birchtree.me

https://www.macstories.net/comfort-zone/

https://www.youtube.com/@abettercomputer

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:55: Support the Podcast

00:02:45: Matt Birchler

00:08:15: WWDC 2024

00:08:52: visionOS 2

00:48:32: Sponsor - Agenda 19

00:50:57: iOS 18

00:54:37: visionOS 1.2

00:56:27: iOS 18 - Part 2

01:34:12: tvOS

01:36:41: watchOS 11

01:43:29: iPadOS 18

01:53:23: macOS Sequoia

02:01:52: Apple Intelligence

02:25:57: Closing Thoughts

02:28:24: Where can people follow you online? 

02:30:05: Closing

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Ken Case is the CEO of the OmniGroup and has been there as a developer for the launch of many platforms now including the Apple Vision Pro. In this episode we discuss his feelings around the launch of this new platform, making the Apple Vision Pro standard equipment at his company for every employee at the OmniGroup, and dive deep into OmniFocus for visionOS, plus we chat about OmniPlan on visionOS, and he shares some hopes for WWDC both as a user and a developer. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links:

https://www.omnigroup.com

https://mastodon.omnigroup.com/@OmniGroup

https://mastodon.social/@kcase

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:24: Support the Podcast

00:02:02: Ken Case

00:04:54: Modifications?

00:07:24: Keyboard/Trackpad

00:08:11: Circling Back

00:08:16: Focal Distance

00:09:54: Multitasking

00:13:44: Envirornments

00:14:52: visionOS apps

00:18:15: Movies

00:18:56: Design Trends

00:19:57: Zooming a window

00:22:21: Standard Equipment

00:25:59: General Feelings about visionOS?

00:28:10: Unique Platform Features

00:29:47: OmniFocus

00:33:31: Window Resizing

00:34:49: Multiple Windows

00:35:42: Bottom Bar

00:37:35: Simple UI for Power Users

00:41:01: Eye Tracking

00:41:57: The Other Platforms

00:44:00: Sidebar Double Tap

00:45:43: Favorite UI

00:48:08: Scanning Documents in visionOS

00:50:02: Audio Recording

00:51:33: Custom Apple Vision Pro layout?

00:53:49: Fantastical

00:54:11: Notifications

00:55:11: Widgets

00:56:07: Notification Center

00:57:51: Where does visionOS shine?

01:02:09: What changed from launch?

01:04:36: Locations

01:06:15: Travel Mode

01:07:40: Roadmap?

01:09:15: OmniPlan

01:13:43: Animation

01:14:19: Challenges bringing OmniPlan to visionOS

01:17:48: How do you use OmniPlan?

01:20:09: What's next for the OmniGroup for visionOS?

01:23:07: WWDC

01:27:40: What do you want as a developer?

01:32:34: Anything else?

01:33:54: Where can people learn more?

01:34:38: Closing

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Charlie Chapman is the developer of Spatial Noise and Level Headed. In this episode, we discuss the Apple Vision Pro platform, his apps, and briefly touch on monetization and the Let’s visionOS conference. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts! 

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

- https://www.revenuecat.com/blog/growth/how-to-make-money-on-the-visionos-app-store/

- https://darknoise.app/spatial/

- https://letsvisionos24.swiftgg.team/en/

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:02: Support the Podcast

00:01:36: Charlie Chapman

00:04:31: General thoughts about visionOS

00:32:07: Mods?

00:35:11: Hardware revision

00:39:58: Apps

00:42:45: visionOS 2

00:47:32: Spatial Personas

00:56:45: Spatial Noise

01:04:56: Mini Player?

01:06:13: Shortcuts Integration

01:07:04: Backgrounding

01:13:36: Envirornments

01:26:29: Level Headed

01:29:33: Monetization

01:35:12: Where can people find you online?

01:35:20: Closing

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Christian Privitelli is the developer of SuperCut. In this episode we discuss his thoughts on visionOS, the challenges of working with streaming apps in Australia, SuperCut’s App Store approval process journey, and the app itself. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon.

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts! If you haven’t left a review in Apple Podcasts yet that would also be greatly appreciated! 

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supercut-streaming-hub/id6478435954

https://supercut.vision

https://twitter.com/priva28_/

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:00:57: Support the Podcast

00:01:33: Christian Privitelli

00:03:38: Your other app

00:05:04: The Quest

00:06:04: Australia

00:08:46: The developer lab

00:09:17: What model did you get? 

00:10:31: Expectations versus Reality

00:13:45: How important was having the device for writing SuperCut?

00:16:38: How do you use the Apple Vision Pro? 

00:19:04: People Tab and Personas

00:24:14: Working in the Apple Vision Pro 

00:27:14: Streaming

00:30:32: Headband/modifications?

00:35:04: Favorite apps?

00:37:26: Netflix

00:40:11: Learning from Juno?

00:42:41: SuperCut

00:47:32: The App Store Approval Process

00:49:59: Did you have to change your app?

00:52:42: Netflix Optimizations

00:54:24: Streaming in Australia

00:54:55: Disney Plus - Weird 3D UI

00:56:56: Prime's Regionality

00:58:22: Plex Support

01:00:01: Your favorite streaming service?

01:00:32: iPad Apps for Video

01:01:28: Region Variances

01:03:28: Amazon Optimizations

01:04:15: UI Explorations

01:05:22: Custom URLs

01:07:27: Better iPad App Support

01:08:53: Environments 

01:17:50: Spatial Personas

01:20:33: Content you are looking forward to?

01:21:34: Anything else?

01:21:46: Where can people learn more?

01:22:33: Closing

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Ethan Sherbondy is the developer of Mahjong Space and at work on several other visionOS apps. Mahjong Space was built with Spatial Personas in mind and is an amazing one to add to your visionOS app library if you are looking for more Spatial Persona games. 

The bulk of this episode was recorded before Apple surprise released Spatial Personas. We were able to record a special segment about Spatial Personas after Apple released that feature as a part of visionOS 1.1.

We cover a ton of ground in this episode including the community aspect of developing for visionOS. Ethan is currently at VisionDevCamp and attended both GDC and a month long visionOS developer residency where he was able to collaborate with other visionOS developers during the launch month of this new platform. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon.

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts! Subscribe today to get early access to both Vision Pros and iPad Pros!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://twitter.com/sherbondy

https://www.mahjong.space

https://www.irylan.com

https://visiondevcamp.org/visiondevcamp-winners

https://f.inc

https://dreamxr.co

https://testflight.apple.com/join/Fc48B6AB

https://www.boxtree.gg

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:42: Support the Podcast

00:02:04: Ethan Sherbondy

00:06:52: Headsets

00:14:28: visionOS

00:18:16: 2 month check-in

00:30:18: VisionDevCamp

00:32:57: Month long residency

00:37:10: DreamsXR Hackathon

00:41:51: Spatially app

00:45:09: dot dot dot

00:48:10: Collaboration

00:54:56: GDC

01:02:52: Mahjong Space

01:10:09: Spatial Personas (Before Launch)

01:12:29: Spatial Personas (ARE HERE!)

01:35:23: Mahjong Space Wrapup

01:36:07: Duel Space

01:42:30: Uploading Your Own Card Decks

01:43:42: Apple Pencil

01:44:05: Volumetric? 

01:44:54: Spatial Personas (facial expressions)

01:45:52: Board Games?

01:47:59: visionOS 2 hopes

01:54:41: Anything else?

01:57:29: Where can people follow you online?

01:57:42: @sherbondy

01:58:13: Closing

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Adam Lisagor is the founder of Sandwich, a creative advertising studio and production company. In this episode we discuss visionOS, Apple Vision Pro, and dive deep into Television. 

Bonus content and early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Bonus content and early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2024/02/13/ep-395

https://sandwich.co

https://sandwich.vision

https://mastodon.social/@adamlisagor

https://twitter.com/adamlisagor

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:09: Support the Podcast

00:01:33: Adam Lisagor

00:08:45: Sandwich

00:11:01: 1 Month In

00:14:19: New Top Strap

00:17:33: Apps?

00:23:49: Audio

00:24:25: Early Oculus

00:26:22: Battery Pack vs iPhone 2G

00:26:48: Synology apps

00:27:41: Final general thoughts 

00:28:39: Favorite Video app?

00:32:51: VFX work in visionOS?

00:35:55: Final Cut Pro for visionOS

00:40:15: 180 degree video?

00:46:52: Locking in place

00:47:35: Television

00:54:17: Aspect Fill vs Stretch

00:56:47: Television 1.1 and 1.2

01:00:50: Using the YouTube approach for other services?

01:05:16: The different TVs

01:12:46: Get info?

01:18:18: VNC app

01:18:48: Weirdest TV

01:20:54: Queue?

01:22:50: Modern TVs

01:24:50: More models?

01:26:41: Filters for the video?

01:29:01: Your lighting on the TVs?

01:30:25: Interactions

01:32:40: Wonderwall

01:35:11: Switching between TVs

01:35:43: 3D content

01:38:14: Flow vs Standard mode

01:42:36: File management

01:44:12: Anything else?

01:45:07: Where can people learn more?

01:46:48: Closing

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Christian Selig is the developer of Juno. In this episode, we discuss our first month with the Apple Vision Pro and dive deep into Juno. 

Bonus content and early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://christianselig.com

https://juno.vision

https://mastodon.social/@christianselig

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:03: Support the Podcast

00:01:20: Christian Selig

00:04:05: Excitement for visionOS?

00:05:10: The trip to New Hampshire

00:10:39: A month in

00:19:53: Other uses of Apple Vision Pro? 

00:20:53: Eye Tracking

00:24:29: Reddit

00:25:46: Easter Eggs

00:28:42: Environments for Movies

00:29:32: Comfort?

00:34:19: 3rd Party Apps

00:39:27: visionOS 2

00:41:38: Apps you wish existed?

00:43:55: Audio

00:46:52: Multiple Videos Playing 

00:49:12: 3D Printed Stand

00:57:02: Accessories?

00:59:02: Juno

01:01:55: Where did the name come from?

01:05:55: Bringing YouTube to visionOS

01:11:48: Aspect Ratio

01:13:59: Accidental Input and Learnings from the Apple Vision Pro

01:16:28: Version 1.1

01:20:53: Drag and Drop

01:25:54: Environments

01:31:13: 180 Videos

01:34:57: Autoplay and Playlists

01:37:15: Features you want to add, but can't?

01:39:46: Spatial Videos

01:40:41: The next version

01:41:20: Pixel Pals

01:44:11: Anything else?

01:44:51: Closing

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Sigmund Judge began his Apple TV coverage in 2015, and has gone on to cover Apple, tvOS, and Apple Originals across video, written articles, and podcasts. Inspired by storytellers and innovators, Sigmund is also the co-host of Magic Rays of Light, a weekly podcast exploring the diverse world of Apple TV. Sigmund is based in England and flew to Cupertino for the launch of the Apple Vision Pro. 

In this episode we discuss his time with the Apple Vision Pro including his flight back to England with the headset. We also discuss using Apple Vision Pro in a hospital environment with limited hand mobility. There is also great discussion on using the Apple Vision Pro as an entertainment device and what some of the best experiences are so far!

Bonus content and early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon. 

Bonus content and early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://mastodon.screentimes.net/@sigmund

https://www.macstories.net/author/sigjudge/

https://www.macstories.net/magic-rays-of-light/

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:23: Support the Podcast

00:01:43: Sigmund Judge

00:10:25: OpticID Tip

00:11:16: Going to America

00:21:56: 93 Year Old Using Apple Vision Pro 

00:28:03: The Flight Home

00:38:41: The Movies Anywhere Situation

00:44:08: Ergonomics of Computing

00:49:31: Envirornments

00:54:42: visionOS apps

01:00:23: iPad apps

01:01:17: The Mac

01:05:33: SharePlay and Audio

01:07:40: HDMI

01:09:42: Utility Apps

01:10:45: Volumetric Apps

01:15:01: The Cameras

01:19:15: 2 Weeks in

01:21:46: Closing

01:24:48: Favorite 3D movies

01:26:51: Wrap-up

01:29:16: Closing

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Kevin Pfefferle is a developer and joins the podcast to discuss his first week with the Apple Vision Pro. 

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon.

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links: 

https://hachyderm.io/@kpfefferle

https://github.com/kpfefferle

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:17: Support the Podcast

00:01:37: Kevin Pfefferle

00:08:54: Expectations vs Reality

00:13:12: Kid's reactions to Apple Vision Pro 

00:14:42: Video Capture

00:16:49: Web dev work

00:18:33: 3rd party apps

00:22:01: iPad apps

00:24:12: Window management

00:25:28: Audio

00:27:46: FaceTime calls

00:29:53: Comfort

00:31:34: Working in different rooms

00:33:10: Envirornments 

00:35:28: Smaller windows

00:36:30: Eye tracking

00:38:34: Little utility apps

00:40:26: Gestures

00:42:05: Anything else?

00:47:11: Travel Case

00:50:44: The Future

00:54:51: Wrap-up

00:55:10: Where can people follow you online?

01:00:08: Closing

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Apple Vision Pro is here! Wes Hilliard from Apple Insider joins the podcast to discuss his time with the headset so far.

Make sure to check out Wes’s review on Apple Insider: https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/02/08/apple-vision-pro-early-review-a-peek-into-the-future-of-computing

This episode was recorded with Personas using StreamYard in Safari on visionOS. You can watch that at YouTube.com/@iPadProsPodcast where the core unedited interview is. We did each record our audio on local separate mics that you will hear in this audio version. The video version we used AirPod Pros to capture our audio; so you can hear the difference there if you are curious.

Early episodes with chapter markers are available by supporting the podcast at www.visionpros.fm/patreon.

Early episodes are also now available in Apple Podcasts!

Show notes are available at www.VisionPros.fm. Feedback is welcomed at [email protected].

Links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXzBaqqGBc&t=7s

Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:03:00: Support the Podcast

00:03:24: YouTube.com/@iPadProsPodcast

00:04:07: Wes Hilliard

00:08:31: Pickup experience

00:11:36: Bands

00:13:49: The Travel Case

00:15:05: Data Usage

00:16:51: Runestone and iPad apps

00:17:59: Gaming

00:20:12: The App Store

00:22:50: Find My

00:23:04: Control Center

00:23:21: Envirornments/Audio

00:24:11: Power usage

00:26:08: Universal Clipboard

00:27:29: Text Selection

00:29:25: Shortcuts

00:29:50: Transparent Walls

00:31:47: Darkness

00:33:03: Environments

00:35:30: 3D Movies

00:37:05: Immersive videos

00:39:32: Wall mounting

00:41:52: Multiple windows from same app

00:43:48: Contacts

00:45:28: Apple Watch unlock

00:45:44: Smart Lenses

00:46:09: Displays

00:50:35: The Lenses

00:54:41: Can you see light?

00:56:00: Real world vs visionOS world

01:00:50: Video capture

01:04:32: General app thoughts

01:08:48: Bluetooth accessories

01:10:33: Full work days in Apple Vision Pro

01:17:16: Eyesight

01:17:58: Final thoughts

01:21:19: Closing

01:22:05: Preshow Persona Chat

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