I was hesitant to have the two of them on together but am so glad I did. They complement one another on this episode just as they did on the road. It's a great take of how two people can work so well together to get each other to the Rock. Teamwork at its finest.

More energy! Karen is also funny. She tells you all the things she thinks she did wrong and how you can do otherwise so you can have a successful race. Her outlook on life and Vol State is refreshing and I know you'll be totally captivated.

You'll be surprised by the perspectives and thoughts from Dr. Downer. She traveled most of the course alone and noticed all the beauty of the entire 314 miles. See how a scientist viewed this beautiful Tennessee course.

This woman is hysterical (funny type, not the other). You'll hear so much about the race that you'd never even think of. She's a wealth of knowledge who also absorbs so much information from other people. She shares all that info with us in this interview.

Hal is a trooper. He made it over 200 miles on destroyed feet and only DNFed because he overslept. I'm pretty partial to this one since his wife saved my day 1 with a PayDay bar!

Lisa has more energy than almost anyone I've ever met. She and her Trash Panda gang have the best stories from this year's Vol State. Make sure you aren't drinking anything that you might spit out when you listen to this one!

James took the lessons he learned from 2024's race (with significant foot issues) and remedied most of it in 2025. He helps you know what might happen and what to do when it does. This is a must listen for lessons learned.

Sam is the first of the Trash Pandas that I interviewed so you can get a male's eye view of this group that stuck together for at least 9 days!

All women and especially mothers should listen to this call whether they run Vol State or not.

Britney talks about her personal transformation in a courageous way that not many people will do.

Brad is a lot of funbut also a man with a purpose. He raised over $25,000 for Tennessee Baptist Children's Home. And talk about pressure…he's from Union City so everyone alongthe course knew him and was cheering for him

You can donate hereif you'd like TennesseeChildren.org