Choose Strong

In this episode, Sally chats with legendary ultrarunner and former Nike Trail teammate Zach Miller about mental toughness, embracing discomfort, and learning to try again when things fall apart. From racing at the highest level for over a decade to finding new challenges in the sport, Zach shares why giving your best isn't about having a perfect day—it's about what you choose to do with the day you're given. Enjoy!

OTHER EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

• How childhood, family, coaches, and years of chasing faster runners shaped his mindset

• Why Zach has developed an unusual ability to stay in discomfort instead of immediately trying to escape it

• Lessons from Canyons 100K and Hardrock about mentally resetting when a race begins to unravel.

• Why mental toughness isn't always enough

• The Barb Miller gene

• How Zach continues to embrace competition against younger athletes as ultrarunning becomes more sophisticated

• What's next - an Appalachian Trail FKT, longer endurance challenges, Western States, and World Championships.

• The discipline of easy training

KEEP UP WITH ZACH:

INSTAGRAM: @zachmiller38

STRAVA: @zachmiller

IRUNFAR: irunfar.com/author/zmiller

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Ultrarunning legend Harvey Lewis joins Sally to share his extraordinary journey from an unlikely teenage marathoner to one of the world's most accomplished endurance athletes, revealing how optimism, adaptability, and mental toughness have shaped his life. They explore the psychology of pushing beyond perceived limits, the power of staying present, and Sally's exciting announcement that she's taking on her first official Backyard Ultra. Enjoy!

OTHER EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

• How Harvey’s mother encouraged his ambitious goals and helped shape his adventurous mindset.
• Balancing fatherhood, college, work, and ultrarunning at just 20 years old.
• Why Harvey recommends three dedicated crew members for success in a Backyard Ultra.
• How backyard races become psychological battles filled with mind games and strategy.
• Why pizza, mac and cheese, cookies, and guacamole are part of Harvey’s race-day nutrition.
• 13+ years of commuting without a car.

KEEP UP WITH HARVEY:

INSTAGRAM: @harveylewisultrarunner

YOUTUBE: @harveyandkelly

WEBSITE: runquesttravel.com

All links, discounts, and ways to support the podcast are here.

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In this episode, Sally sits down with longtime friend and fellow podcast host Jonathan Levitt for an honest conversation about the power of running, meaningful friendships, taking risks, and building a life around what you love. Jon opens up about navigating a difficult breakup, finding emotional strength through running, leaving his corporate career to pursue entrepreneurship, and the importance of staying true to yourself in a world driven by social media and outside expectations.

OTHER EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

• From Hating Running to Marathons

• Breaking the Three-Hour Marathon Barrier

• The Origins of For the Long Run — How conversations with inspiring athletes became a podcast.

• Why Small Steps Build Momentum — Practical advice for turning an idea into something meaningful.

• The Value of Genuine Curiosity & why Jon prefers deeper conversations over chasing podcast rankings.

• Finding Your People Through Running

• The Great Running T-Shirt Debate

• Favorite Running Fuels and Nutrition

• Running Shoes and Injury Management

• Recovery Tools Worth Discussing — Sauna sessions, blood flow restriction, compression socks, and Normatec boots.

KEEP UP WITH JON:

INSTAGRAM: @jwlevitt

PODCAST: For the Long Run

PODCAST: Long Run Labs

SUBSTACK: Long Run Labs

WEBSITE: ForTheLong.Run

X (TWITTER): @jwlevitt

LINKEDIN: Jonathon Levitt

All links, discounts, and ways to support the podcast are here.

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Recorded live at Mammoth Trail Fest, Sally sits down with longtime friend, professional ultrarunner, and race founder Tim Tollefson for an inspiring conversation about perseverance, personal growth, and finding purpose beyond athletic achievements. Tim reflects on his journey from an overlooked young runner to one of the sport’s most accomplished athletes, opening up about setbacks, personal struggles, and the lessons learned along the way. Together, they explore the power of vulnerability, the importance of community, and how running can become something far greater than chasing finish lines.

Other Episode Highlights:

• Tim's journey from soccer to professional running

• Why finishing Leadville meant more than the podium

• The inspiration behind creating Mammoth Trail Fest

• Tim's experience pacing Sally at Cocodona 250

• Why Tim has no plans to run a 200-miler

All links, discounts, and ways to support the podcast are here.

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In this episode, Sally gets a chance to chat with friend, ultrarunner, and world-record holder Meg Eckert about her remarkable journey from being too afraid to show up for her first 5K to becoming one of the world’s top multi-day runners. Meg recently ran more than 636 miles in six days, becoming the first woman to surpass 1,000 kilometers in the event. She opens up about pacing, fear, joy, discomfort, her relationship with running, and the mindset that continues to push her toward discovering what she’s capable of. Thanks for pushing play. Enjoy!

Other Episode Highlights:

• Skipping her first 5K out of fear
• Why she started running because of her dog
• Meeting her husband through running
• Often runs to work—and arrives earlier than when she drives
• Meg's love of six-day races

• How she is very particular about tying her shoes
• Why brushing your teeth mid-race feels amazing
• Teaching middle school vs. hour 130

• How joy and suffering can coexist
• Training her gut with short-run gels
• How she still thinks she can improve the record

Keep Up With Meg:

INSTAGRAM: @_megeckert

All links, discounts, and ways to support the podcast are here.

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In this episode, Sally chats with her friend, and Elite ultrarunner, Rachel Drake, who shares what it looks like to pursue big dreams while raising two young children and working 65–80-hour weeks as an anesthesia resident. She opens up about UTMB, returning to running after pregnancy, leaning on family support, and learning that different priorities can take the lead during different seasons of life. You will be encouraged by Rachel's drive and commitment to excellence in all she does! Enjoy!

Other Episode Highlights:

• How running helps the emotionally demanding experiences she encounters at the hospital
• Sally eating Rachel's pre-race sweet potatoes
• The perspective of suffering from illness vs suffering in a race
• UTMB training 50-60 miles a week
• Overnight shifts days before UTMB
• Running after pregnancy
• Having an older brother helped to develop her competitiveness

Keep Up With Rachel:

STRAVA: Rachel Drake

INSTAGRAM: @rachelraedrake

YOUTUBE: @ultrafamilyhustle

All links, discounts, and ways to support the podcast are here.

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Fresh off an incredible second-place finish at UTMB, Rachel shares what it was really like navigating the overwhelming crowds, racing alongside the best in the world, and fighting to hold onto second place in the final miles. She also opens up about her surprise mountaintop engagement, life with Will, wedding plans, Switzerland, pickleball, her upcoming Snowman Race in Bhutan, and why she’s more committed than ever to doing things her own way! You'll love this conversation. Enjoy!

Other Episode Highlights:

• The overwhelming UTMB start
• Glitter on the start line
• Being chased for 2nd place
• Trying to find her "positive attitude"
• Her fiance, Will, "The King of Switzerland"
• Wedding planning

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Just days before Badwater 135, Sally received an unexpected call offering her a spot in the race after she had already stopped heat training and shifted her focus toward TDS in the Alps. With only five days to prepare, she chose to say yes, reset her expectations, and approach one of the toughest races in the world very differently than she had in the past. Sally shares how slowing down, listening to her body, leaning on an incredible crew, and letting go of performance goals turned into one of her most meaningful race experiences. Enjoy!

Giveaway will last for 10 days from the release of this episode.

Other Episode Highlights:

• Another giveaway!
• Managing recurring stomach problems during ultras
• Knee update after nearly 500 miles of racing
• Meeting her crew for the first time the day before the race
• Popsicle at mile 25 creates a problem
• Running the final miles with Joe Corcione
• Barely eating from mile 45-120
• McDonald's hash brown saves the day
• Community highlights

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Fresh off the finish line in Chamonix, Sally recaps her first TDS—one of the most rugged races in the UTMB week—after battling rain, massive climbs, a brutal fall, a badly injured leg, and the loss of her poles. She shares how gratitude, perspective, and repeatedly choosing to take the next step carried her through to the finish line and helped turn a difficult race into a powerful reminder that feeling weak doesn’t mean you have to quit! It’s a long one, but it is worth it! Enjoy!

Other Episode Highlights:

• Starting from the last corral
• Surviving the midnight storm
• The aggressive first cutoff checkpoint
• Running, falling, sliding down in the rain
• Seven-thousand-foot mountain climbs
• Racing the last half of the TDS race without poles (crazy!)
• Why mountain gear really matters
• An encouragement for YOU to keep going

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In this episode, Sally chats with Mackenzie Jolliffe and Billy Garner. They take us behind the scenes of crewing Max Jolliffe during his historic Badwater 135, revealing the planning, pacing, nutrition, split-second decisions and teamwork required to keep him moving. They also share what the experience taught them about trust, friendship, staying calm under pressure and serving someone else without needing the spotlight. Enjoy!

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Billy (William): Instagram & TikTok

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