Matt Lambert has become one of the quiet legends of the Auburn trail community, not because of race results, but because of the joy, generosity, and gratitude he brings to every run. Although he's a seven-time Western States finisher, Matt rarely talks about racing. Instead, he shares how growing up on the Western States Trail taught him that running is about adventure, friendship, and discovering the "pharmacy in your head," where movement naturally brings peace, perspective, and emotional healing. The conversation explores how our relationship with the trail evolves over time, why Matt intentionally stepped away from racing before it stopped bringing him joy, and how balancing running with other activities has allowed him to stay healthy for decades. Along the way, Don, Scott, and Matt reflect on why trail running creates deeper friendships than almost any other activity and how time on the trail often provides clarity that's difficult to find anywhere else. It's an inspiring reminder that the greatest reward isn't another buckle. It's becoming the kind of person who still can't wait to head into the woods after forty years.

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09:30 | Adventure, Friendship, and Growing Up on the Trails

20:40 | The "Pharmacy in Your Head"

30:00 | The Trail as a Place of Healing

41:15 | Why Longevity Beats Mileage

50:00 | Knowing When to Let Racing Go

1:03:00 | What Really Matters After Decades on the Trail

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Hydration can make or break a long run, but there isn't a universal formula that works for everyone. Kramer Ammons shares how he tests everything from sweat rate and hydration timing to where runners carry their water, explaining why the most efficient solution isn't always the most obvious. The conversation explores handheld bottles, hydration belts, vests, bladders, and why convenience often matters just as much as laboratory efficiency. Don and Scott add decades of racing experience, emphasizing that successful runners solve problems early instead of waiting until dehydration, stomach issues, or fatigue force them to slow down. The discussion also covers pre-hydration, electrolytes, carb drinks, aid station strategy, and how listening to your body is often more valuable than blindly following generic hydration guidelines. The biggest takeaway is that great hydration isn't about copying someone else's plan. It's about experimenting until you discover what consistently works for you.

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04:30 | The Best Way to Carry Water

12:30 | Find Your Personal Sweat Rate

18:00 | Pre-Hydration Before You Start

24:30 | Choosing the Right Hydration System

45:30 | Water, Electrolytes, and Carbs

49:00 | The Best Runners Solve Problems Early

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Krissy Moehl, Kathleen Egan, and Jenny Jurek, affectionately known as the Mullet Train, share the story behind their goal of completing 1,000 trail miles together, including the Arizona Trail, High Lonesome 100, and Crazy Mountain 100. What started as an annual fastpacking adventure evolved into something much bigger: an intentional way to preserve friendship, challenge themselves, and keep adventure central as they get older. They talk candidly about learning each other's rhythms, figuring out how far their particular “train” can realistically travel each day, and discovering that a successful adventure doesn't always mean sticking stubbornly to the original plan. The conversation also gets wonderfully practical, covering ultralight gear, water, food, trail magic, trail names, cowboy camping, and the different “superpowers” each woman brings to the group. One of the most interesting shifts comes from Krissy, who spent decades racing at the highest level but now finds herself wanting to stop, take her shoes off at lunch, and actually absorb the places she once would have raced through. Underneath it all is a compelling message for aging athletes: don't wait for adventure to happen, put it on the calendar, find people who make you want to show up, and go collect some stories while your body still lets you.

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RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure.

05:35 – Why They Needed This Adventure

14:28 – Why This, Why Now?

20:19 – Welcome Aboard the Mullet Train

28:45 – It Took 400 Miles to Become a Team

35:00 – From Racing Through It to Taking It In

46:20 – Rattlesnakes, Cowgirl Camping and the Best Stories

50:43 – Why Adventure Matters in Your 50s

54:08 – Sometimes the Hardest Part Is Showing Up

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Coaching advice almost always starts with, “It depends.” In this special Ask the Coaches episode, Don and Scott take away that safety net by forcing Ian Sharman, Hal Koerner, and Ellie Greenwood to make definitive choices on some of trail running’s biggest debates. Is it better to be undertrained or overtrained? Should you trust data or your instincts? Would you add mileage or strength training? Can motivation be taught? Along the way, the coaches reveal not only their philosophies, but also the surprising amount of agreement behind them. Beneath the conversation emerges a consistent message: sustainable training, learning to listen to your body, and developing good judgment matter far more than chasing perfect numbers. It’s entertaining, occasionally chaotic, and full of coaching wisdom every trail runner can apply.

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ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100.

RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure.

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04:00 | Training Smarter vs. Training Harder

21:00 | Undertrained or Overtrained?

29:00 | Mileage or Strength Training?

44:00 | Trust the Data or Trust Yourself?

56:00 | What Should You Do When You Want to Quit?

1:11:00 | Final Thoughts (and One Last “It Depends”)

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Sophie Grant had reached a point where even the hardest ultramarathons no longer carried the uncertainty they once did, and after years of infertility and IVF, she realized she had also lost some of her joy in running and trust in her own body. The Via Alpina changed that, taking her roughly 2,000 kilometers across the Alps and forcing her to approach each day without knowing exactly what the next one would bring. She and photographer Zoe Salt talk about the physical and logistical realities of nearly a month on the trail, including relentless fueling, strength training, bad patches, storms, forest fires, and the value of an exceptional crew. Sophie shares practical lessons endurance athletes can use immediately, including her belief that “a bad moment does not make a bad day,” the importance of eating before assuming something has gone seriously wrong, and learning to distinguish between not wanting to continue and truly being unable to continue. The deeper story is about something bigger than an FKT: Sophie describes how this adventure helped her appreciate what her body could do after spending years focused on something it couldn't. By the end, her message is wonderfully simple: try something new,

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RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure.

05:14 – Why Sophie Needed Something Different

12:12 – Infertility, Running and Her Relationship With Her Body

20:00 – What 29 Days Really Looked Like

25:12 – How Do You Fuel for a Month?

28:41 – “A Bad Moment Does Not Make a Bad Day”

41:51 – When the Plan Falls Apart

48:20 – Not Every Problem Needs to Be Fixed

53:15 – The Courage to Try Something That Scares You

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We often think of ultrarunning as an individual pursuit, but Eric Strand’s Western States story proves that the strongest performances are rarely solo efforts. After cracking a rib, falling multiple times, and watching his sub-30-hour goal slip away, Eric reached mile 78 convinced he wouldn’t make it. His pacers refused to believe that story, helping him stop negotiating with himself, stay focused on the mile he was in, and keep moving forward one step at a time. Along the way, the conversation explores what separates a great pacer from an average one, how trust and preparation begin long before race day, and why different moments require different kinds of encouragement. This episode is a reminder that sometimes the greatest gift another runner can give you is believing in you until you’re able to believe in yourself again.

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08:00 | Borrowing Someone Else’s Confidence

15:30 | What Makes a Great Pacer

30:00 | Managing Pain Without Giving Up

39:00 | Lessons for Every Pacer

48:00 | A Son’s Push to the Finish

55:00 | Why No One Finishes Alone

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Most runners focus on pace, heart rate, and fueling, but heat may be the hidden factor that determines whether a great race turns into a survival march. In this conversation, CORE endurance performance lead Aline Barre explains how the body regulates temperature, why overheating steals blood away from your muscles and gut, and how even well-trained athletes can unravel when heat gets ahead of them. She shares simple, research-backed ways to become heat adapted using overdressed runs, saunas, hot baths, and smart scheduling, while also explaining why hydration, electrolytes, and cooling strategies matter just as much. The discussion also explores CORE’s non-invasive temperature sensor, how monitoring heat strain can help runners avoid crossing the point of no return, and why “cooler is faster” isn’t just a catchy phrase, it’s physiology. This episode offers practical tools that can make running in the heat feel far more manageable.

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RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure.

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07:00 | How to Become Heat Adapted

16:30 | Measuring Core Temperature

22:00 | Cooling Strategies That Actually Work

31:30 | Common Heat Training Mistakes

38:00 | Heat Training Beyond Hot Weather

44:30 | Practical Tips for Your Next Hot Race

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What would you think if you arrived at a trailhead and saw runners strapping full-size ironing boards to their backs? That’s exactly how Don and Scott discovered Iron X, a 13-mile extreme ironing race through the trails of Auburn, California. Race creator Ben Mitchell and participant Brian Goldman explain the surprisingly real world of extreme ironing, the rules of carrying an ironing board through the wilderness, and the seven checkpoints where competitors must stop and iron their shirts in places ranging from the American River to an abandoned car. But beneath the absurdity is something that feels increasingly important in trail running: grassroots events built around community, creativity, and simply having a good time. The conversation also explores the challenges facing small race directors, the value of low-key “fat ass” events, and Brian’s work helping financially struggling runners participate in the sport. It’s a reminder that some of the best trail running experiences may have nothing to do with qualifying points, lotteries, or prestigious finish lines, and everything to do with showing up, finding your people, and not taking yourself too seriously.

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03:10 | How Iron X Was Born

08:11 | Seven Stops and a Lot of Ironing

13:12 | The Surprisingly Real World of Extreme Ironing

23:07 | Why Trail Running Needs More Weird Races

30:52 | The Heart of Grassroots Trail Running

36:28 | Making Trail Running More Accessible

45:01 | Stop Taking Yourself So Seriously

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Runners have more data, technology, nutrition products, and training advice than ever, so why does Dr. Phil Maffetonebelieve many of us are actually getting slower and less healthy? In this wide-ranging conversation, Phil challenges the resurgence of high-carbohydrate fueling, explains why building a strong aerobic system still matters, and shares how he used heart-rate training decades before it became mainstream. He breaks down the Maffetone Method, why runners should measure training by time rather than miles, and how slowing down today can ultimately help you run faster tomorrow. The conversation also explores the difference between collecting data and actually using it intelligently, along with Phil’s belief that diet and metabolic health can quietly undermine even the best training plan. And in classic Phil fashion, the discussion eventually wanders into music, creativity, awareness, and why becoming a better runner may require developing more of yourself than just your legs.

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ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100.

RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure.

03:18 | The Return of High-Carb Fueling

09:08 | The Heart-Rate Experiment That Changed Everything

14:44 | Are We Using All This Data Wrong?

18:32 | How the Maffetone Method Actually Works

27:28 | Are Today’s Runners Actually Healthier?

46:16 | Want to Be a Better Runner? Do More Things

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Trail running has grown from a small community of passionate runners into a global sport, bringing bigger races, better gear, international competition, and more opportunities than ever before. Gaël Dutigny shares a firsthand account of witnessing UTMB from its very first edition in 2003 and reflects on how its evolution mirrors the growth of trail running itself. The conversation explores both sides of that growth, from crowded lotteries and commercialization to innovations in equipment, race organization, and worldwide access to incredible events. Along the way, Gaël, Don, and Scott discuss what makes iconic races so special, why local races still matter, and how runners can stay connected to the welcoming culture that first drew so many to the trails. It's a thoughtful discussion about preserving the soul of trail running while embracing the sport's exciting future.

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00:00 | How UTMB Began Gaël shares what it was like covering the very first UTMB in 2003 and why the race immediately felt different from anything else in endurance sports.

11:00 | From Local Race to Global Icon How UTMB grew from an adventurous mountain race into one of the biggest brands in trail running.

26:00 | Has Success Made Trail Running Harder to Access? The discussion turns to lotteries, qualifiers, and whether iconic races have become too difficult for everyday runners to experience.

37:00 | The Benefits of Growth Why commercialization has also brought lighter gear, better shoes, safer races, and more opportunities for runners around the world.

46:00 | You Don't Need UTMB to Belong A reminder that unforgettable trail running experiences can still be found at local races and on your favorite hometown trails.

1:00:00 | Protecting the Spirit of Trail Running Gaël, Don, and Scott discuss how runners can embrace the sport's growth without losing the welcoming community that makes trail running unique.

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