This week Kat (@kat.defatta) is going solo for a conversation about the juxtaposition of joy. If you have ever been someone who becomes anxious when things start to align in your life, this one is for you. Kat explains why joy is surprisingly the most terrifying feeling that humans experience. And thanks to Brene Brown, we have some ways to combat this reflex in order to savor the goodness in our lives.

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