Episode Eight: John Sweeney and Edward Abel Smith are joined by Cleuci De Oliveira for a question and answer session on everything related to the trials of Lucy Letby. But this episode starts with yet another astonishing revelation about one of the four consultants who were Lucy Letby’s primary accusers.

Today, on February 4th, 2025, we have heard the first complete report by the international panel of medical experts gathered by Lucy Letby's legal team under the guidence of Dr. Shoo Lee.  The report summary was presented in London at a press conference hosted by Sir David Davis, the senior Conservative party MP who has raised questions about the case and declared his certainty that this is a miscarriage of justice. The 14 member panel which includes world renowned experts in neonatology and pediatric medicine was established to asses the case notes of the 17 babies that formed Lucy Letby's two trials. Their conclusion and summary of the medical evidence is crystal clear, they can find no evidence of murder or attempted murder. Dr. Lee and the panel can however find countless examples across the case files of failures in medical care and, chronically sick babies collapsing and dying of natural causes. The experts conclusions stand in stark contrast to Dr. Evans' evidence for the prosecution. 

In light of this report we felt it was important to hear Dr. Dewi Evan’s interview with John and Ed in full.  

Unreliable Witness? As questions rise about the credibility of the Crown’s star expert witness, Dr Dewi Evans, in this episode co-hosts John Sweeney and Edward Abel Smith go back in time to a 34-year-old scandal when a boy suffering a treatable disease died wholly unnecessarily in his hospital. The evidence pointed to GPs being negligent and forging medical notes. Dr Evans stands accused of taking part in a cover-up. If so, Dr Evans may be a key player in not one terrible miscarriage of justice, but two.

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This is Episond 6: The framing of Lucy Letby, the last episode in our series. In this episode hosts John Sweeney and Edward Abel Smith tell the story of how neonatal consultant Dr B accidentally killed a baby at the Countess of Chester Hospital and how the jury never knew. Former NHS doctor Phil Hammond then sets out why he believes that a horrible hospital is a far better explanation for the tragic loss of babies than a serial killer nurse. This podcast was independently funded and although nobody was paid to create or participate in the podcast, there are legal and other costs that we are crowdfunding to cover - if you want to support that please visit our Crowdfunder page. Although this is the final episode in the series - we will be doing a bonus rounding up the case so far, also, if there are major updates we will consider recording an update.  Also, if you have information we are here to listen.  There are many people connected to the Countess of Chester hospital with information about the events that led to Lucy Letby being prosecuted, if you are or you know of anyone who has not spoken out please email us in complete confidence - [email protected]

In Episode 5, Bad Science, we interview statistician John O’Quigley and neonatologist Colin Morley who have great doubts about the science behind the convictions against Lucy Letby. The two professors back up their logic with their own research papers - unlike the Crown’s star expert witness, Dr Dewi Evans.

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In this episode Dr Dewi Evans gives his last interview on his conviction that Lucy Letby is a murderer, his view that critics, especially statisticians, are wrong and are often senior males who see Letby as a damsel in distress. We will be dealing with the issues raised by Dr Evans in the next episode. John Sweeney and Ed Abel Smith also discover that the one of the four consultants who accused Lucy Letby led, by improper care, to the death of a baby. And that is something the jurors who convicted Lucy Letby never knew. This is a fully independent podcast, please consider helping us with our funding for production, go to our Crowdunder page for more information.

In this episode hosts John Sweeney and Ed Abel Smith ask critical questions of the Cheshire Police investigation into the state of the neonatal clinic at the Countess of Chester Hospital: why did the coppers plump for the conclusion of a serial killer at large? Why did they hire, then fire a professor of statistics and not tell the defence? And did the police understand the complex medical reality, that the unit was looking after very sick premature babies, some of which had every chance of dying naturally? This is an independent podcast production, to support our work please visit our Crowdfunder 

In episode 2 - After a spike in deaths in the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital in 2015, hospital bosses called in a team of independent expert doctors to find the root cause. Their report was damning, criticising environment, staffing and the consultants doing two scheduled ward rounds a week - the standard is two a day. The consultants pointed to a killer nurse on the loose. But did they have skin in the game? This podcast is a self funded independent production.  To support our journalism please donate via our Crowdfunder - https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/lucy-letby-was-there-ever-a-crime

Lucy Letby is the most prolific serial killer of our time. She is convicted of murdering seven babies and trying to harm many others. But there are serious questions about not only whether she is a killer at all, but whether there was ever a crime. In episode one, John Sweeney and Edward Abel Smith discover that all is not as it seems at the Countess of Chester Hospital, the place Letby is accused of carrying out her killing spree. Specifically, there were problems with the plumbing, meaning the neonatal unit where the babies died, was on a regular basis, literally full of shit.

New podcast announcement. Welcome to our new podcast series 'Was There Ever A Crime: The Trials of Lucy Letby'. Please help us fund this important journalistic project, go to our Crowdfunder here - https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/lucy-letby-was-there-ever-a-crime Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Lucy Letby is Britain's worst female serial killer in modern times. Or is she? On the day she was first convicted, veteran journalist John Sweeney tweeted: "Lucy Letby may well be the victim of a miscarriage of justice, that the Crown has taken a cluster of accidental and natural deaths and pointed the finger at Letby. There is no compelling evidence of a single murder. The law, sometimes, gets it wrong." In a forensic six-part podcast series, Sweeney, who helped free cot death mum Sally Clark in 2003, and investigative writer Edward Abel Smith address the elephant in the courtroom: was there ever a crime? The Crown's version is that there is compelling medical evidence, a confession and a spreadsheet proving she is the only common denominator when death happens on her watch, time and again. Lock her up and throw away the key. That's exactly what the trial judge did. Judge Goss told the court: "There was a deep malevolence bordering on sadism in your actions… you will spend the rest of your life in prison." The parents of those poor babies who died at the Countess of Chester Hospital have been going through hell, with every detail of their child's death being laid out in front of them. Nothing should take away from their tragedy or grief. But it is important in a country where we pride ourselves on our legal system, that Lucy's case is properly scrutinised. The trigger to this case was a spike in deaths in the unit, which looked after very premature, very small babies, sometimes only two pounds in weight at birth, from three deaths per year up to ten in 2015 and eight in 2016. How come? The series examines evidence from multiple Care Quality Commission (CQC) inspections and internal reports that highlight significant issues at the Countess of Chester Hospital's neonatal unit. These reports indicate the unit was understaffed, with workforce levels 20% below national standards, and faced challenges in maintaining proper care standards. The CQC noted poor maintenance of premises, to the point where some risks had to be escalated during inspections due to patient safety concerns. Internal documents from 2015 revealed the unit was "currently understaffed and underskilled," according to the nurse manager. The hospital's overall rating remained "requires improvement," with particular concerns raised about maternity and neonatal services. In other words the hospital was in the shit, literally and metaphorically, in bad condition, poorly staffed, the sink flooded with raw sewage when it rained heavily; that the spreadsheets proving Lucy's guilt tell a lie as dishonest as painting the target around the arrow after it has been shot; that the babies who died were very, very sick; that her "confession" is no such thing rather therapeutic processing of stress; that the medical evidence against her is a poorly evidenced theory, not fact; that the spike in baby deaths in Lucy's unit can be readily explained by the hospital accepting the most vulnerable babies for the first time, a national surge in neonatal deaths and the shit; that there was never proof of a single crime. And the hospital did not publish evidence of a high-risk bacteria in the tap at the neonatal unit. This podcast, from the makers of the award-winning podcast series, Hunting Ghislaine, will be an extraordinary listen. Look out for the first episode, "Was There Ever A Crime? The Trials of Lucy Letby: A Hospital Full Of Shit" The series is being crowdfunded as we are without any commercial backers for this project. If you fear that Lucy Letby has been the victim of a miscarriage of justice, please contribute to our crowdfunder. Twitter/X: @johnsweeneyroar / @edwardabelsmith