As we face the COVID-19 crisis, we also face many losses. How might we leverage what we know about grief and loss to help staff, clinicians and community members get the support they need? Isabel Stenzel Bynres is a cystic fibrosis, lung transplant patient who has lived through many losses and is now a grief counselor in the San Francisco Bay Area. If you are seeking a sense of comfort and normalcy during this time of unrest, listen to this podcast featuring a wise woman with a lot of relevant expertise to share. Consider how her perspective might inform how we can better engage staff and providers as they seek to heal from the stress of COVID-19.