Justin Charity and Micah Peters open by discussing why the Grammys are hard to watch, why they don’t watch, and what they watched instead (1:02). They continue by debating which actors are “Black famous” and which are “universally famous” (22:20), and close out the show by revisiting ‘Elden Ring’ and talking ‘Bloodborne’ (31:37).

For episode guides, further readings, and recommendations, check out the ‘Sound Only’ syllabus here.

Hosts: Justin Charity and Micah Peters

Associate Producer: Stefan Anderson

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