We Earn Media

We Earn Media

By Britt Klontz & Jackie LambertBusinessMarketing
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We Earn Media episodes

  • 13: Walk Through Fear with Shonali Burke

    Stepping outside of what you know in any career can be scary. Many of us (including Britt + Jackie!), had our start in media relations through the SEO-world. But, there’s more to PR than placements and backlinks. And, where do PR’s who may have been pigeonholed into one single specialty go from here? Our guest today, Shonali Burke, is a Public Relations scholar and renowned consultant. She is here to guide us outside of what we know and into the unknown. From it, we’ll all come out with a better understanding of what Public Relations actually is, and how we can be the best practitioners we can be.

    In this episode, you’ll learn...

    • How to build and measure a PR strategy beyond just, “earning a lot of placements”
    • How earned media is just one piece of a larger picture of the Public Relations landscape
    • How PR’s can expand their skill set beyond what’s comfortable to their day-to-days
    • 38 min
    • 12: How to be a Helpful Human with Susan Johnston Taylor

      We sat down with freelance journalist, Susan Johnston Taylor about some real-life examples of when PR’s have exceeded her expectations and when they haven’t. We discuss what it takes to maintain a relationship with a freelance journalist (vs. a staff writer), but there are takeaways that may be implemented no matter whom you're reaching out to.

      In this episode, you’ll learn...

      • How a real-life cold pitch resulted in coverage
      • How to take your HARO pitching to the next level
      • What keeps a journalist going back to the same PRs and sources
      • 27 min
      • 11: The "Wall Street Journal" Marketing Problem with Rand Fishkin

        Welcome to our season 2 kickoff! In this episode, our special guest, Rand Fishkin (founder of SparkToro and previous co-founder of Moz), discusses with us a situation all marketers have found themselves in before: a boss or client demanding a “prestigious placement,” foregoing the (actually, HUGE!) potential of working with other "lesser-known" publications. 

        In this episode, you’ll learn...

        • What exactly is the "Wall Street Journal" marketing problem
        • How to respond to this through honest conversation rooted in rational, data-driven thinking
        • The value of working with the “little guys,” and how to find these publications that your target customers ACTUALLY engage with
        • Plus, learn what's in store for season 2 of We Earn Media! 


          53 min
        • 10: Britt + Jackie's First Self-Reflection 'Sode

          In honor of our season 1 finale, we've decided to forego our usual guest/interview format in order to self-reflect on the podcast so far. In this episode, you'll hear our favorite season 1 takeaways, what we have in store for season 2, and a little background on who we are! If you're reading this, we want to hear from you. Email us at [email protected] or find us on Twitter/Instagram (@weearnmedia). 

          31 min
        • 9: How Aira's PR Team Leans on Positivity During Covid-19

          Originally, we intended to hop on a call to catch up on work and life with the Aira PR team. Instead, we decided to hit that record button and bring this conversation to listeners to talk about how a real PR firm is handling pitching under Covid-19 successfully. Quite frankly, we love how these creative geniuses have balanced both client and reporter expectations seamlessly and complementary to each other under this pandemic. Their insight serves as an inspiration for all PR’s during this time.

          In this episode, you’ll learn:

          • How they managed and pivoted client work post-COVID
          • The unique ways they’ve built relationships with reporters
          • How they stay light-hearted in their storytelling without being tone-deaf

          • Our guests are:

            • Shannon McGuirk, Head of PR
            • Aliyah Loughlan, Digital PR Executive
            • Aoife O’Connor, Digital PR Team Leader
            • Georgia Keenan, Digital PR Account Manager
            • 34 min
            • 8: Michelle Rafter (Biz Reporter) On How PR's May Help With Her Covid-19 Reporting

              We sit down with Michelle Rafter, a freelance business reporter whose focus right now is Covid-19’s impact on tech, work, and industry.  Although she doesn't rely on traditional press releases to craft her stories, she offers some valuable lessons around how PR's may still work with freelance reporters like her. 

              In this episode you will learn:

              • What’s changed for Michelle’s reporting due to Covid-19  (& how the recession set her up for this!)
              • The kinds of stories she’s focusing on under this pandemic (& how she’s sourcing her stories!)
              • How she best works with PR professionals (it might not be how you think!)
              • 30 min
              • 7: Automated cars are good, but automated emails are bad!
                We caught up with Carl Anthony, the Managing Editor of Automoblog, to learn more about his perspective on best practices for working with PRs and content marketers. Even if you don't work in the auto or tech industries, this one is full of useful pitching tips. Especially if you've ever been curious about (or have personally implemented) guest-posting and thought leadership content strategies.
                50 min
              • 6: Pitching in the Covid-19 Era, ft. Lisa Rowan (Lifehacker) & Frankie Rendon (SLH)

                We chatted with Frankie Rendón, head of media relations for Student Loan Hero and Lisa Rowan, a reporter for Lifehacker: Two Cents, to get the scoop on what it’s like to work on both sides of personal finance media during Covid-19.

                In this episode you’ll learn about:

                • The new challenges that both Frankie and Lisa have dealt with during this unprecedented time
                • Successful PR strategies that both Lisa and Frankie have seen work
                • Actionable advice for pitching under this "new normal"
                • Even if you’re not in the personal finance industry, this episode still holds some universal lines of thinking that we believe all PR’s should be exposing themselves to at this time.

                  33 min
                • 5: There's a good chance Miranda Marquit might trash your pitch

                  Miranda Marquit has been a full-time freelance financial writer and money expert for almost 15 years. If you’ve ever been involved in the personal finance space, it is very likely that you have come across (and even pitched) Miranda. She has contributed to several financial outlets including Huffington Post, The Balance, U.S. News World & Report. Needless to say, she is one of the most prolific writers in the space.

                  If you all listened to our episode with Alan Henry, then you’ll remember how he believes freelance writers are the future of mass media and highly recommends PRs build relationships with them. To further test this theory, we asked Miranda for her opinion and a very interesting conversation plays out.

                  Full show notes here


                  41 min
                • 4: To Catch a Fake Financial Expert with Casey Bond of HuffPost

                  We sat down with Casey Bond, money reporter for the Life section at HuffPost, to talk about the time she uncovered a fake financial expert, and then another. While it’s unfortunate that she can’t stay away from these PR fraudsters, her experience opens up the conversation for pitching best practices, ethics and more.  As Casey puts it, “Whenever you call in an expert it’s because they are supposed to be providing something to you that you can’t figure out yourself or find easily.” Listen to learn about Casey’s journalistic standards, including but not limited to: the best way to respond to a HARO, what makes a content piece newsworthy, and how PR’s may ethically build rapport with a journalist without ever meeting in-person. Full show notes are here. 

                  59 min

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                How does one “earn” media coverage? What makes a story “compelling enough" for a reporter to cover it? Through thoughtful conversations with the journalists themselves, Britt and Jackie leave no stone…