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Aven and Loani wrap up all of your screen industry news from August, starting with the funding threats facing Screen Queensland and Screen Tasmania, and what deep cuts could mean for productions, crews and small businesses.

They cover the ABC's restructure of its Indigenous Department and the fight for First Nations content, Screen Australia's 2026 Screen Currency report, and AI copyright rulings from Germany to Indonesia.

Plus, it's festival and market season, with 37 South, TIFF's new financing market and the upcoming BBC Studios Creator Lab Australia.

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Links to topics mentioned in this episode:

Qld government $50m commitment to Screen Queensland: https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/105920

Screen Tasmania budget cuts and downsizing: https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/film-industry-fears-screen-tasmania-could-lose-its-role-attracting-productions

Tasmanian Filmmakers Alliance: https://tafa.au/

ABC restructure of Indigenous Department: https://tvtonight.com.au/2026/08/abc-folds-indigenous-department.html

Screen Australia Screen Currency 2026 report: https://screencurrency.screenaustralia.gov.au/

Nicole Del Prado's post on kids content hours: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7496353005244538880/

German court ruling against Suno AI (GEMA): https://www.apraamcos.com.au/about-us/news-and-events/german-court-ruling-against-suno-sends-global-warning

Getty Images indemnified AI tool and subscriptions for creators: https://www.gettyimages.com.au/ai/generation

Indonesia AI copyright law draft: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/indonesias-copyright-rewrite-puts-google-ai-platforms-notice-2026-07-17/

37 South Market and Melbourne International Film Festival: https://if.com.au/three-australian-features-selected-for-tiff-financing-market/

BBC Studios Creator Lab Australia applications: https://www.mediaweek.com.au/bbc-studios-launches-creator-lab-australia-with-sbs

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In this episode, Loani Arman speaks with Rachel Maxine Anderson and Rae Choi about their work on Ina, a six part online series, and how they built an audience without waiting for anyone to green light the series but themselves.

They discuss how working in short form for an online audience pushed them to be more personal and more specific with the series, why trusting your audience matters more than trying to protect them, and how creative constraints forced them to make smarter production decisions.

They also talk about building a direct relationship with an audience on social media, controlling your own marketing strategy, getting immediate feedback from audiences, and making decisions without waiting for a commissioner’s approval.

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Listen to hear Rachel and Rae discuss:

• How writing from personal truth and specific experience reaches audiences far more effectively than trying to make something too broad
• Why there’s no such thing as a spoiler online and how revealing plot points in social clips drove audiences to their series
• Creating their own fan edits using trending TikTok songs
• Why format and budget constraints forced smarter production and creative decisionsHow comments online and audience feedback ultimately proved engagement, not rejection

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Further information about Ina and the team:

Watch Ina on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@ina.series

Follow Ina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ina.series

Rachel Maxine Anderson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-maxine-anderson-a815b593

Rae Choi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raechoi

Rachel Maxine Anderson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelmaxinex

Rae Choi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raechoi_

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Websites:

rachelmaxine.com

liminapictures.com

contrastories.com

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In this episode, Aven Yap speaks with Lyanna Kea, a Malaysian Chinese creator, actor and producer with over 15 million fans, about building the viral world of Aunty Kea and turning content creation into a genuine production business.

From starting out broke and stuck at home during COVID as an international student, Lyanna shares how a pyjama-friendly “Asian mum” character grew into Kea Productions, a team of 16 people running scripted, animation and lifestyle channels across multiple platforms and languages.

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Listen to hear Lyanna talk about:

• Why quantity beats quality when you are starting out
• How she runs pre-production, production, post and development each week
• Why long form video drives loyalty and revenue, not just views
• Learning to delegate and build a business that survives when she steps away
• How her content opened doors to Screen Australia, ABC’s Ground Up and more
• The shifting relationship between creators and the traditional screen industry

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Further information after listening to the episode:

• Lyanna on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/lyanna-kea-7a557a413
• Lyanna on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lyanna_kea/?hl=en
• Lyanna on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LyannaKea
• Lyanna on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lyannakeaa/
• Lyanna on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lyanna_kea?lang=en

• Kea’s Universe on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keasuniverse
• Kea Plus Ultra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keaplusultra/
• Kea Plus Ultra on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KeaPlusUltra

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Online strategist, writer and producer Alyce Adams joins Robbie Miles to explore what it takes to identify and build an audience for your work in an algorithm-driven world.

Drawing on eight years in Screen Australia's Online Department and her work developing and marketing digital-first projects, Alyce explains how audience identification goes hand-in-hand with development and starts long before production, why authenticity matters and a lack of it means death for your project, and why filmmakers need to stop thinking of marketing as something that happens after the edit.

Essential listening for writers, producers and creators looking to build genuine communities around their work.

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Listen to hear Alyce discuss:

• Why audiences can "smell a fake" and how authenticity drives online success
• The three-second rule and what makes people stop scrolling
• Why filmmakers should identify their audience before they start making their project
• How thumbnails, hooks and release strategies shape discoverability
• Why niche audiences are often the fastest path to broader success
• Why every film student should start a YouTube channel

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Further information after listening to the episode:

Alyce Adams: ⁠https://www.alyceadams.com.au⁠

INA (YouTube): ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ina.series⁠

Sarah's Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLiDLkQzio&list=PLsPVOdZ3LN6emtXsW_JSloI_kVflZzAHW&index=2

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Have thoughts to share about this episode or want to come and chat about everything going on in the industry?

Join Loani, Aven, Robbie and Kirsty this Thursday 30th July at 8:30pm for our monthly Instagram Live: https://www.instagram.com/weinterruptpodcast

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Aven and Kirsty catch up to discuss everything that happened in the industry in July, starting with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s speech announcing mandatory national AI standards, with a strong commitment to protecting Australian creators’ IP.

They also cover Screen Australia’s new development guidelines, Netflix’s viewer numbers for the first half of 2026, and a big month of festival announcements from CinefestOz to TIFF and Venice.

Plus tributes to Sam Neill and Tania Lambert ACS, industry moves at Screenworks and Screen Australia, what we’ve both been watching in cinemas, productions shooting around Australia, and more!

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Links to topics mentioned in this episode:

• Australia’s AI Policy Update: https://theconversation.com/australia-wants-to-manage-ai-what-will-that-look-like-287496
• Can Filmmaking Survive Without AI? (Daniel Maze on LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/can-filmmaking-survive-without-ai-daniel-maze-9j77e
• Stephen Follows: What Just Happened to TheNumbers.com Should Worry Us All:
• SPA’s Ones to Watch program: https://www.screenproducers.org.au/ones-to-watch
• Australians in Film’s Future Vision Forward initiative: https://www.futurevisionsummit.org
• Sam Neill Dies After 78 Years of Living the Skuxx Life (Betoota Advocate): ⁠https://www.betootaadvocate.com/sam-neill-dies-after-78-years-of-living-the-skux-life ⁠
• Tania Lambert ACS Tribute: https://www.instagram.com/p/DbFeVwHE3LW

Past episodes of We Interrupt This Broadcast we mentioned:

• Grainne Brunsdon & Ian Murray (Screen Australia’s Private Investment Toolkit): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=reco4cIFdWhbwDfs2
• Jasmine Yang (The Amazing Digital Circus): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recVN5R4R020S0EKn

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In this special video episode, Kirsty Stark speaks with Grainne Brunsdon, COO of Screen Australia, and Ian Murray, founder of 113 Partners, about the recently released Private Investment Toolkit from Screen Australia: the first resource of its kind designed to help both producers and investors navigate screen finance.

Grainne shares where the idea came from and why private investment is a key component of the Australian screen funding landscape, before Ian walks through the toolkit, sharing his screen to talk through the Producer and Investor journeys and all of the tools on offer.

With everything from a waterfall analysis tool to investor communication plans, the toolkit is an invaluable asset for anyone financing a screen project.

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This episode includes a video walk-through of the Private Investment Toolkit. Watch the video version on YouTube or Spotify to get the most from the episode.

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Listen to hear Grainne and Ian discuss:

• Bridging the gap between producers and investors
• The producer journey vs the investor journey (commercial, impact and philanthropic)
• How the Waterfall Analysis Tool models recoupment and returns
• Why communication is the key to investors coming back
• The massive intergenerational wealth transfer that’s on its way, and what it means for the screen sector

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• Screen Australia’s Private Investment Toolkit: https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/private-investment-toolkit
• Grainne Brunsdon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grainne-brunsdon-a201876a
• Ian Murray on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/icmurray
• Ian’s book, Learning the Language: A Guide to Private Investment in Australian Film: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/1764660803

If you haven’t listened to our recent Deep Dive episode with Ian Murray on Private Investment, it’s a fantastic episode to listen to alongside this one.

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YouTube strategist Nico Lockhart, founder of Team Falco, joins Aven Yap to pull apart what it really takes to build kids’ IP on a digital-first platform.

Nico has a decade of experience across traditional and digital platforms, and facilitated the inaugural Kids IP Incubator run by Screen Australia and the Australian Children’s Television Foundation.

He explains why creativity and distribution are now one process, why the best creators start with a thumbnail rather than a script, and why most channels take two to three years to build their audience.

This is a practical roadmap for anyone creating in the kids’ space or thinking about how to find your audience on YouTube.

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Listen to hear Nico discuss:

• How discovery works on YouTube and the friction points that stop people from watching
• Thumbnail-first ideation and why distribution and creativity are now one process
• Building flexible formats that never expire
• How to spot a real trend vs. a passing moment
• The financial reality of digital-first kids’ IP
• Why the narrative of viral success hurts creators

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Further information after listening to the episode:

• Team Falco: https://www.teamfalco.com
• Nico Lockhart on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolockhart
• Colin and Samir (creators for creators): https://www.youtube.com/@ColinandSamir
• We Interrupt This Broadcast Episode 60: David Hutchinson (Boy and Dragon): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recofZdKYcJcZV9aB

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Access coordination is fast moving from ‘nice to have’ to non-negotiable, and Stephanie Dower is one of the people building that shift from the ground up.

In this Deep Dive episode, Loani Arman speaks with Stephanie about her work as an access coordinator, producer, and CEO of Dower Productions and what it takes to make screen productions genuinely accessible for cast and crew.

They also get into the practical stuff like easy-read call sheets, captions, modifying trailers when no accessible ones exist for hire, and why including access requirements in your budget from Day One costs far less than scrambling to fix things when they’re broken.

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Listen to hear Stephanie discuss:

• The earlier you engage an access coordinator, the better.
• Why no set is fully accessible, and what to aim for instead.
• How access coordination widens the talent pool.
• The real costs of getting it wrong, including burnout, reputational risk and the Disability Discrimination Act.
• Why access should be a budget line item.

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Further information about Stephanie and Dower Productions:

• Dower Productions website: https://www.dowerproductions.com
• Dower Productions on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dower_productions
• Dower Productions on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dower-productions
• Stephanie Dower on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-dower-61bb5131

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Have thoughts to share about this episode, Screen Forever, or anything else happening in the industry?

Join Loani, Aven, Robbie and Kirsty this Thursday 2nd June at 8:30pm for our monthly Instagram Live: https://www.instagram.com/weinterruptpodcast

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Robbie and Kirsty catch up to discuss everything that happened in the industry in June, from the release of “YouTube feature films” Backrooms, Obsession and our very own Australian contribution The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act.

They also explore the question of fair pay for crew on independent feature films, and break down May’s record Australian box office takings.

Plus, a Sydney Film Festival wrap-up, what we’ve both been watching in cinemas, productions currently shooting around Australia, and more!

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Links to topics mentioned in this episode:

• The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act - Australian YouTube phenomenon just beat Star Wars at the box office: https://thenightly.com.au/culture/film/the-amazing-digital-circus-the-last-act-australian-youtube-phenomenon-just-beat-star-wars-at-the-box-office-c-22403900
• ‘Obsession’ Art Director Calls for Industry Reform After Getting Paid Less Than $7,000 as Film Nears $175 Million: https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/movies/obsession-art-director-salary-complaint-sally-choi
• Australian Box Office Posts Biggest May Results of All Time: https://au.variety.com/2026/film/news/australian-box-office-posts-biggest-may-results-of-all-time-37185/
• Netflix Originals and Cultural Memory: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/cinema-netflix-streamingwars-share-7466148857072992256-MPHC/
• Kate Separovich’s fabulous Australia in Cinemas blog: https://australiaincinemas.substack.com/

Past episodes of We Interrupt This Broadcast we mentioned:

• Jasmine Yang (The Amazing Digital Circus): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recVN5R4R020S0EKn
• David Hutchinson (Boy and Dragon): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recofZdKYcJcZV9aB
• Mike Schwarz (Beast): https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recfh66GZCH5cBHit

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In this episode, Robbie Miles speaks with producer and director Michael Schwartz of Deeper Water Films about the realities of packaging films, attaching cast, navigating Hollywood agencies and building a sustainable producing career.

From his unconventional entry into producing through to working with talent including Sam Worthington, Russell Crowe and Luke Bracey, Mike shares hard-earned lessons about getting projects made in an industry where persistence matters as much as creativity.

Listen to hear Michael talk about:

Why “every film wants to die” and what it takes to keep them alive

Building access, credibility and long-term industry relationships

Packaging films and attaching cast in the independent marketplace

Working with agents, sales companies and financiers

Lessons from projects that almost got made, and why some didn’t

Listen to Episode 62 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.

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Further information after listening to the episode:

• Beast (2026): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7708226/

• Michael Schwarz imdb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3751903/

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