In this final episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast for 2025 (and Julie’s last episode as a host), Julie and Kirsty wrap up the month’s industry news, including the new streaming quotas legislation, the Screen Australia Drama Report, the Netflix / Paramount / Warner Brothers Discovery saga, and our Spotify Wrapped stats for the year.

Plus: all of your December screen industry news headlines from around the country...

This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.

00:00 Intro

00:41 Kirsty’s Japan Prize Trip & Julie Starts at Screen Queensland

02:45 Our Spotify Wrapped Results for 2025

04:27 Streaming Quotas

05:58 Screen Australia Drama Report

10:06 U16 Social Media Ban

12:51 Warner Brothers Discovery + Netflix or Paramount

17:36 Letterboxd’s Video Store

19:32 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities

25:10 What we’ve been watching

28:32 What’s in production around Australia

29:03 Farewell, Julie & see you all in 2026!

30:28 Outro & Acknowledgement of Country

Links:

Our Spotify Wrapped for 2025: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7402212521182744576

Streaming Quotas: https://deadline.com/2025/11/australia-streaming-quotas-sworn-into-law-1236630348

Screen Australia Drama Report: https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/sa/media-centre/news/2025/12-02-drama-report-2024-2025

Warner Bros. Discovery + Netflix or Paramount: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-13/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-skydance-netflix-battle/106126968

U16 Social Media Ban: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/09/australia-under-16-social-media-ban-begins-apps-listed

Letterboxd’s Video Store: https://letterboxd.com/video-store

AACTA Nominees: https://www.aacta.org/aacta-awards/winners-and-nominees

AACTA Wake In Fright Recipient: https://www.aacta.org/aacta-development-initiatives/wake-in-fright-development-initiative

AACTA Reg Grundy Award: https://www.aacta.org/our-news/media-room/top-5-finalists-announced-for-the-aacta-reg-grundy-award

ASSG Awards: https://if.com.au/better-man-narrow-road-to-the-deep-north-lead-winners-at-assg-awards

ASE Ellie Awards: https://if.com.au/the-order-apple-cider-vinegar-win-at-ellie-awards

ACS State Awards: https://cinematographer.org.au/state-and-territory-awards

Cameraimage Golden Frog: https://www.filmink.com.au/public-notice/australian-cinematographer-benjamin-bryan-takes-home-the-golden-frog-at-camerimage-2025-for-feature-documentary-iron-winter

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We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark. This episode was edited by Kirsty Stark.

In this episode, Producer Daren Smith returns to share more about his production fund for independent features. Daren was previously a guest on Episode 34 and is back to answer all of the questions you submitted after listening to the episode.

He shares insights on marketing, building relationships with investors and understanding market needs, how each film's finance structure works, and how to manage the uncertainty of the industry.

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Listen to hear Daren discuss:

• Brotherhood: A Cinematic Musical, the first film being greenlit under Producer Fund 1
• why you need to start marketing on Day 1
• finance plans for independent films, and why they shouldn't be 100% equity
• why he's chosen to release his films theatrically
• how to reach out to investors and the importance of continued outreach over time
• tracking progress and analysing your numbers

Follow Daren and his work:

Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmith

Daren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912

Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co

Get your free copy of Daren's book, Blockbuster: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/blockbuster

Follow Brotherhood - Producer Fund One's first film:

• 
  https://newsletter.craftsmanfilms.co/posts/brotherhood-update-composer-sessions-social-media-now-live
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brotherhoodmusical/
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brotherhoodmusical
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BrotherhoodMusical

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/2qxWEdMELDtPnr5qvq7Rsq

This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by ⁠⁠⁠Kirsty Stark⁠.

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In this episode, Kirsty chats to Enzo Tedeschi, a director, producer, and writer at Deadhouse Films, and how he’s sustained a thriving indie production company through significant industry changes.

Enzo has often been at the forefront of experimental production models made possible through changes in technology, from his early crowdfunded feature film The Tunnel, which now has an audience of over 25 million, to work across genre projects and documentary.

He discusses audience building, the differences in audience building between documentary and narrative projects, evolving business models and the role of technology in shaping the future of indie filmmaking.

Listen to hear Enzo discuss:

• How the traditional industry prevented Enzo and his team from their planned distribution rollout for The Tunnel

• Why crowdfunding isn’t the right move for 90% of projects

• How to cast a project in a way that increases its likely pathway to audience

  The importance of recognising - and leveraging - the story behind your project

• How Enzo is using AI on his latest project

And much more!

Follow Enzo and his work:

Enzo Tedeschi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/enzo-tedeschi

Enzo Tedeschi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enzotedeschi

Deadhouse TV on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/deadhousetv

Enzo’s website: https://www.enzotedeschi.com.au

Deadhouse Films: https://www.deadhousefilms.com

The Tunnel: https://www.thetunnelmovie.net

This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.

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In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of the creator economy with Keith Quinn, founder of Engine Room - a new kind of studio helping independent creators turn their data into strategy, growth, and sustainable income.

Keith’s career has spanned 25 years at the intersection of entertainment, digital innovation, and entrepreneurship. From Project Greenlight with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, to running Paramount’s original digital content division, he’s watched the media landscape expand, contract, and re-invent itself multiple times.

Now, with Engine Room, Keith is giving creators the kind of analytical and financial support once reserved for Hollywood studios. He explains how data can empower creative growth, why YouTube has quietly become the biggest player on TV screens, and what the next five years hold for creators, streamers, and the screen industry at large.

Listen to hear Keith discuss:

• The evolution of entertainment: From the streaming boom to the rise of independent, open-platform creators.
• The creator economy as small business: Why data and audience insight are the new creative superpowers.
• Inside Engine Room: How the company helps creators understand and act on their analytics - with real examples of how simple insights doubled reach and revenue.
• The new model for creator growth: Subscription tools, sponsorship data, and how Engine Room connects like-minded creators to help build ‘creative clusters’ to leverage their success
• Plus: Keith’s big idea to change the future of our industry

Follow Keith and his work:

• Keith Quinn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quinnkeith/
• Engine Room: https://www.engineroom.com.au

This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠ and edited by Brandon Boyer.

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In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month’s industry news, including a summary of the streaming quotas bill that’s just been introduced to parliament, a wrap-up of the Australian International Movie Convention (AIMC), and what’s happening in AI.

Plus: all of your November screen industry news headlines from around the country...

This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.

00:00 Intro

00:40 Julie’s new role at Screen Queensland

02:10 AACTA Festival’s 2026 line-up

03:15 Streaming Quotas update

07:40 AIMC wrap-up & what’s happening in the feature space

11:57 AI update: copyright laws & OMNI AI film festival

14:30 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities

19:25 What we’ve been watching

20:22 What’s in production around Australia

21:13 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of Country

Podcast News:

Julie’s new role at Screen Queensland: https://screenqueensland.com.au/sq-news/media-centre/screen-queensland-appoints-julie-eckersley-as-executive-director-screen-content/

2026 AACTA Festival Program Launch: https://www.aactafestival.com

Streaming Quotas:

https://www.screenproducers.org.au/media/release/?id=SPA-01860

https://deadline.com/2025/11/australia-streaming-quota-analysis-1236607691

https://www.saveaustralianstories.com.au

AIMC:

https://cinemaassociation.asn.au/members-events/2025-aimc

AI Updates:

https://if.com.au/industry-commends-government-for-ruling-out-tdm-exception-in-copyright-laws

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/deepfakes-denmark-copyright-law-artificial-intelligence

https://omnifilmfestival.com

The Cinema That Never Was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfludfofQGw

Awards & Announcements
https://www.screenhub.com.au/news/news/natalie-miller-fellowship-awards-dual-recipients-with-2025-grant-2684678

https://if.com.au/cornel-wilczek-jed-kurzel-meg-washington-on-top-at-screen-music-awards

https://cinematographer.org.au/state-and-territory-awards

https://if.com.au/screen-nsw-selects-daniel-king-for-first-nations-screen-fellowship

https://if.com.au/spa-announces-pitch-on-demand-shortlist-for-2025

https://www.sbs.com.au/aboutus/2025/10/29/sbs-nitv-and-screen-australia-announce2025-digital-originals-shortlist

https://www.aacta.org/our-news/media-room/strawflower-wins-the-2025-aacta-pitch-focus-initiative

Industry opportunities

https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/narrative-content-production/finance-attraction/international-initiatives/talent-gateway

https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/narrative-content-production/finance-attraction/international-initiatives/global-producers-exchange

https://if.com.au/whos-the-next-big-thing-submit-your-picks-for-ifs-2026-rising-talent-list

https://www.sbs.com.au/aboutus/2025/11/04/sbs-calls-for-bold-thought-provoking-factual-ideas-up-to-50000-in-development-funding-available

https://www.screenproducers.org.au/spa-awards

Race Around the World: https://if.com.au/abc-opens-applications-for-race-around-the-world-revival/

Creator Economy Masterclass: https://www.screenproducers.org.au/events/details/?id=cdc82e50-50a7-4aee-b8f0-a7d9c14bbf57

Wrap-Up

Japan Prize: https://www.nhk.or.jp/jp-prize/english/index.html

Daren Smith Episode (submit your questions to [email protected]): https://open.spotify.com/episode/38P6KVO39ekPEqlmw1C2dx

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In this episode, Julie Eckersley chats to Amelia Darmawan, Co-Founder and Executive Producer at Totem, a company that’s quietly reimagining what a digital-first entertainment business can be.

The company designs next-gen content businesses for media companies, brands, and creators, helping great IP reach millions more online.

As Director of Strategy & Content, Amelia helps drive innovation across original content, revenue expansion, brand partnerships, and AI-powered workflows.
She shares some of what she’s learnt while shaping the next generation of entertainment brands.

Listen to hear Amelia discuss:

• The shift she’s seen across the screen and creative industries over the last 10 years

• How the benefits can go both ways as we move into true collaborations between traditional media creators and the creatorsphere

• How to maximise your IP and reach new audiences online

• How to understand and work with the algorithms

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What does it take to build a thriving, sustainable creative business in the new media landscape?

In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of digital creators with Farhad Meher-Homji, Co-Founder and Head of Strategy at Changer Studios - an organisation that’s helped tens of thousands of creators in over 40 countries turn passion into profession.

Farhad breaks down how the creator economy has matured from the fringes of entertainment into a powerful mainstream force and why the smartest creators now think like entrepreneurs.

He unpacks how to build a content strategy that actually works, how to read audience data beyond the vanity of subscriber counts, and why psychographics - understanding why your audience connects - is the secret weapon of modern storytelling.

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Listen to hear Farhad discuss:

• The shift from attention as a metric to attention as a business model
• How creators are turning audiences into communities, and communities into media businesses
• Why “audience ownership” is a key step for long-term sustainability
• What burnout looks like in the creator economy, and how to build for longevity
• How authenticity, not production value, is now the ultimate marker of quality
• The rise of “human-led, AI-assisted” creativity, and the value of real human connection

Follow Farhad and his work:

• Farhad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farhadmh/

• Changer Studios: https://www.changerstudios.com

• Changer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/changerstudios

  
  

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In this episode, Kirsty talks to Daren Smith of Craftsman Films, a Utah-based independent producer with four features and multiple seasons of TV under his belt.

Daren shares how he set up Craftsman Films, as an independent studio, and the new $10 million dollar film fund he’s raising, with the goal of producing ten profitable “blockbuster indies.”
He also discusses the challenges of independent filmmaking, including financing, development and distribution, and how he’s addressing these issues through a new model inspired by venture capital structures.

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Listen to hear Daren discuss:

• The five key challenges of independent filmmaking

• Craftsman Films’ new model for indie film financing

• How to approach a pitch so that private investors will listen

• The importance of building your personal brand

• How reaching out on LinkedIn beats cold emailing

• Why it’s important for a film fund to have a clear thesis

Follow Daren and his work:

• Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmith

• Daren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912

• Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co

This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠Kirsty Stark and edited by Brandon Boyer.

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In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month's industry news, from distributors making AI edits and Tilly Norwood's debut through to shifting audience habits and some great industry opportunities to apply for.

Plus: all of your October screen industry news headlines from around the country...

This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School.

00:00 Intro

00:41 Exciting news! Our new sponsor & a new partnership.

03:01 Critters - a $30m "AI-integrated" animated feature film

05:39 AI "actress" Tilly Norwood

07:40 Tropfest's stance on AI

08:20 Trump, Tiktok & Tariffs

09:46 Gen Z watching TV through social clips

14:23 Do fans move from YouTube to TV?

17:46 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities

09:20 Opportunities & upcoming events

20:17 What we've been watching

22:43 What’s in production around Australia

23:24 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of Country

Podcast News

• Say hello to our new podcast sponsor AFTRS and use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year: https://www.aftrs.edu.au
• Learn more about the upcoming AACTA Festival. We'll be there as official media partners: https://www.aacta.org/p/2025-aacta-festival

AI Round-Up

• ⁠⁠Deep Dive with Clayton Jacobson: https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.substack.com/p/ep-30-reimagining-filmmaking-with

Critterz "AI-integrated" Feature Animation

• https://www.critterz.tv/ 

• https://www.screendaily.com/news/ai-integrated-animation-critterz-in-production-for-uks-vertigo-films/5208690.article

Unauthorised AI Editing

• https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7376751430831079425-t5Yg/
• https://deadline.com/2025/09/together-china-gay-scene-ai-edit-neon-1236554804/ 
• https://variety.com/2025/film/news/ai-actress-tilly-norwood-talent-agents-zurich-summit-1236533454/ 

Tilly Norwood

• https://variety.com/2025/film/news/tilly-norwood-ai-eline-van-der-velden-1236543362/ 

• https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tilly-norwood-ai-actress-betty-gilpin-guest-essay-1236396217/

• https://www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-statement-synthetic-performer

AI "not out of the question" at Tropfest

• ⁠https://www.screenhub.com.au/news/interviews/tropfest-founder-john-polson-says-ai-not-out-of-the-question-in-2026-festival-return-2678406/⁠

Trump, TikTok & Tariffs

• https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/trump-approves-tiktok-deal-through-executive-order.html

• https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/10/10/barron-trump-tipped-top-tiktok-job
• https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-30/fears-trump-film-tariff-could-hurt-australian-film-industry/105834582

Audience Shifts

• GenZ only watches TV through social clips: https://theankler.com/p/gen-z-only-watches-your-show-through
• Do Creator Fans Move from YouTube to TV? https://businessoftv.substack.com/p/do-creator-fans-move-from-youtube

Industry News & Opportunities

• ⁠AACTA Screen Careers Expo

• ⁠AACTA Young Stars ⁠
• Reg Grundy Award
• AIF Insider Sessions: Writers Room
• AGSC Scoring Summit

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We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark.

In this episode, Kirsty talks to Creative Producer Nicholas Colla from LateNite Films in Melbourne about how he and his business partner Chris Hocking have built a slate of work that balances great storytelling with highly accomplished VFX and animation.

Nick shares their approach to production, including integrating post production workflows and using technology in their planning and development process, plus the lessons they've brought into live action from their animation work.

Listen to hear Nick discuss: