Time for another edition of We Meet Again, the subseries of Meet Our Makers where I re-interview folks from the show's past, this time with niceties and introductions out of the way, clearing the room for more intimate and casual conversation. This time we have Nina Nastasia back on, who I had on last time alongside Jeff MacLeod to talk about their band Jolie Laide's debut LP. Now the band is back with their sophomore album, Creatures, which is out now, but this time I have Nina solo. We chat about the new album, how it's been growing the band (they've since added two new members), as well as how her songwriting and relationship to music-making has changed over time. We also talk about her new solo release, Songs for a World of Trouble, which at the time of this recording hadn't even been announced yet, but is now out - and only on her Bandcamp. We talk about a lot more, too - guitar, Steve Albini, Spotify - and it was so lovely to have her back. Thanks for listening.