The Jasons are in Austin for this episode with President and CEO of ERCOT, Pablo Vegas...who manages the state's electric grid. In his first-ever podcast appearance, Vegas reveals that Texas might not be able to get enough reserve electricity to have on standby if the state gets socked in with a severe winter storm. Vegas also reveals how much ERCOT has been paying big electric users to shut down to keep the rest of us out of rolling outages. And he estimates how much power Texas will need by the end of this decade (Hint: It's a LOT more than we have now).

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Pablo Vegas

President & CEO of ERCOT