Jamie welcomes good friend and fellow podcaster Jess Rothschild, host of Hot Takes & Deep Dives, to explore her undying, unapologetic love for ultimate Housewives icon Bethenny Frankel. Together, they explore the highs and lows of all things Bethenny - why she will likely never reach the visionary heights of entrepreneurs like Martha Stewart or Oprah, why she remains obsessed with fame for fame’s sake, why Jason Hoppy was actually a “perfect” relationship for her on an unconscious level, the delirious ride of The Big Shot with Bethenny, and much, much more. This episode is very much a love letter to Housewives fandom, celebrating the ways in which we find ourselves drawn to certain Bravolebrities, warts and all, and how we can come to love and accept certain personalities completely on their own terms. Be sure to follow Jess at @jessxnyc and subscribe to her podcast Hot Takes & Deep Dives.

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