Jack and Josh get together to discuss one of the biggest news items of the entire season: Dana Holgorsen is the new OC. They discuss:

• Jack's thoughts on why he didn't expect this to happen but why he's still not apologizing for pushing back against the Fire Satt crowd!
• What could actually improve in the final three games and if differences will be noticeable.
• What it means for 2025 and beyond.

Speaking of 2025, the guys discuss how the Rhule era could be defined by this move and the necessity to make a bowl game.

The pod goes off the rails towards the end for reasons that are hard to explain, but we think you'll enjoy!

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Music: Ian Aeillo

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