Trump has just reopened 5000 square miles of ocean habitat to fishing, and legalized killing bear moms and bear cubs in Alaska. Jim Adams, of the National Parks Regional Conservative Association joins Thom with some deep background on the story.

New Zealand is almost ready to declare themselves virus-free. Why didn't the United States do the same kind of aggressive testing and contact tracing they did? Has our government decided to go for 'herd immunity' even though so far only 3 or 4 percent of the population of the United States has had the disease? Is a second wave very likely?

Plus Thom reads from 'A Deep History of Ourselves' by Joseph LeDoux, and 'Last Hours of Humanity- Warming the World to Extinction' by Thom Hartmann.

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