ABC Chief Political Correspondent and author Jon Karl joins the show to discuss his new book, "Tired of Winning: Donald Trump and the end of the Grand Old Party." Do not miss the alarm Jon sounds about the state of our democracy and how the guardrails are fully off the Trump train. What revelations did he have straight from Steve Bannon and other Republicans close to Trump? Why Trump's campaign launch in Waco was no accident. And why when Trump spouts fascist rhetoric, we have to take him at his word. And why Trump is so different now than in 2016 or 2020.

Get Jon's book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/730629/tired-of-winning-by-jonathan-karl/

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