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The hosts interview Ses about how tattooing was harder to enter in the early ’90s without the internet, leading him to start underground as a “scratcher,” build a mail-order tattoo supply/flash hustle, and eventually learn by hanging around Fat Mike’s biker shop, where he began tattooing with a homemade machine and later inherited clients after Fat Mike died. Ses describes the importance of flash to shop identity, collecting and drawing flash, and meeting key artists like Jack Rudy and later collaborating with Boog and Nemo on a major flash set after connecting via Myspace, including Boog’s demand to see him draw in person and his intense travel/work ethic. They discuss hand-drawn vs digital flash, algorithm-driven “timeless” trends, AI references, client guidance, numbing products, and the need to respect and preserve tattoo history, ending with the host presenting a NYC Tattoos coloring book project and Ses showing framed gifts and original flash pages.

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