Lockdown does strange things to people. After 20 years of marriage, Nick and his wife bought two cats for the family. They love them but they are mystifying. What is going on in there?

Luckily for Nick and his family, John Gray, formerly Professor of European Thought at the London School of Economics, recently published his new book ‘Feline Philosophy: Cats and the Meaning of Life.’ In this episode Nick talks to John about sin, the fall, self–awareness, morality, philosophy, Montaigne, Blaise Pascal… oh, and cats.

You can buy the book here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/feline-philosophy/john-gray/9780241351147

Unfortunately the audio quality for this episode is not up to our normal standard and for this we apologise.