Paul Scully, former Minister for London, has given his first extended interview to The News Agents since he talked about 'no-go' areas in Tower Hamlets and Birmingham. What did he mean? And what was he trying to say about Lee Anderson?

What is it about the Tories deputy chairmen that makes them say this stuff? Today, we have a go at answering that.

Is Rishi scared of losing the voters he thinks Lee Anderson stands for? And is he right to think Lee talks for the Red Wall? Or is that just a slur in it's own right? Later, what was President Biden doing in an ice cream parlour talking about Gaza.

Editor: Tom Hughes

Producer: Laura FitzPatrick

Social Media Editor: Gabriel Radus

Video Production: Rory Symon & Shane Fennelly

Clips:

X, Rosie Holt

LBC, Michael Tomlinson

BBC Radio London, Paul Scully

MSNBC, Joe Biden

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