In this episode, Paul, Shane and Lacey welcome A.J. Swoboda. A.J. is assistant professor of Bible, Theology and World Christianity at Bushnell University, lead mentor for the Doctor of Ministry program at Fuller Theological Seminary and the author of many books, including After Doubt (Brazos). Listen as they discuss the marks of deconstruction and what Christians and ministry leaders can do when someone wants to walk away from their faith.

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