Grace is a word that we've all most likely heard and yet we often get it wrong. Do we really know what grace is and, maybe more importantly, what grace isn't? To dig into this topic, I sit down with Joby Martin. Joby is the founder and lead pastor of The Church of Eleven22 in Jacksonville, Florida which was recently named the "Third Fastest Growing Church in the United States" by Outreach Magazine. Joby's most recent book is all about the topic of grace. We talk about why it's a challenge for us to accept grace. We talk about why it's a challenge for us to extend grace to others. Joby also drops leadership gold, especially for those of us who like to run fast (and maybe act less gracefully than we should when others can't keep up). I personally needed to hear this! Get a copy of Joby's book Run Over by the Grace Train Thanks to our amazing partners on this episode: Vern Eide & International Justice Mission Vern Eide Motorcars is a growing employee-owned company that offers sales, service, and financing of automotive, motorcycle, and power sports lines, including Acura, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Honda, Hyundai and Mitsubishi brands. Whether you live locally or across the country, visit verneide.com International Justice Mission is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world, taking special care of survivors from the moment they're rescued all the way through their healing and restoration. To learn more and to partner with this amazing organization, visit ijm.org Subscribe to The Conversation on YouTube and watch the full interview with Joby: youtube.com/@adamaweber Sign up for The Crew: adamweber.com/thecrew