In this episode of Way of the Heart, Jake & Brett are joined by long time friend, Peter White. Peter is a Registered Clinical Counselor that has known Jake professionally for years and watched Brett hoop during his prime basketball years. They discuss a wide variety of topics including the beauty and difficulties of marriage, how men and women respond differently to conflict, how conflict can lead to great things & the importance of good fathers. This is one of our deepest conversations yet and we hope that it speaks to your heart.

Key Points

1. The beauty and difficulties of marriage.

2. A discussion about how people, especially men, get married without an understanding of what it takes for a marriage to thrive.

3. Trends in boy's/men's personal growth since the feminist movement

4. Psychologically, men tend to have a fight or flight mentality. Women tend to have a tend and mend mentality. This dates back to the earliest humans. Men tend to fight alone. Women work together.

5. Conflict in marriage can be generative.

6. The importance of fatherhood. Inviting our sons to something higher by letting them punch a little above their weight.

7. The distorted desire to build an empire instead of serving your neighbor.

8. How to drop the facade and get to more of your true self.

Key Quotes

"Most men are far more sensitive than they let on." -Peter

"Your wife cannot fully understand the contents of your heart if you're shouting at her." -Peter

References Peter's Website Warren Farrell's Website

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