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When Testament finished touring behind their debut album The Legacy, they had zero songs written for a follow-up. The label didn’t care—they demanded another record immediately. Scrambling to fulfill their contract’s 40-minute minimum, the Bay Area thrash band wrote The New Order in the studio, added an Aerosmith cover, tossed in some classical-influenced instrumentals, and somehow delivered one of 1988’s most essential thrash metal albums.
In this episode of Dig Me Out 80s Metal, hosts Jason Ziak, Tim Minneci, and Chip Midnight explore how Testament turned deadline panic into precision thrash. They break down Alex Skolnick’s astonishing guitar work (recorded when he was just 19 years old), Chuck Billy’s evolving vocal style, the power grooves that made Testament stand apart from their thrash peers, and why this album should’ve earned them a spot in the “Big Five” of thrash metal alongside Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax.
If you love Metallica, Anthrax, Overkill, or Bay Area thrash metal, this episode unpacks why The New Order remains a thrash clinic 37 years later.
Episode Highlights:
0:00 – Introduction to 80s Metal poll results and Testament’s victory over Motörhead, Anthrax, and Blackfoot
1:03 – Band history: Testament’s origins as Legacy, their Bay Area roots, and the contract crisis that shaped The New Order
3:47 – What works: Alex Skolnick’s classical-influenced precision playing at age 19, the power grooves, and the locked-in rhythm section
8:12 – “Into the Pit” – Why Testament’s most-played live song became a thrash anthem (even though it’s not about moshing)
12:20 – “Disciples of the Watch” – Breaking down one of the album’s heaviest tracks and Skolnick’s sweeping guitar mastery
15:04 – The Aerosmith cover: How “Nobody’s Fault” became an unexpected highlight and showcased Testament’s versatility
18:29 – The instrumentals: “Hypnosis” and “The Dirge” as atmospheric breathers that elevate the album’s pacing
21:44 – “Trial by Fire” – The single that featured on MTV’s Headbangers Ball and showcased Testament’s unique arrangements
24:03 – What doesn’t work: Chuck Billy’s Metallica-influenced vocals and missed melodic opportunities
29:59 – Original vs. remastered versions: Why the remaster brings the bass and drums forward for a fuller sound
34:47 – Worthy Album ratings across the board and why this is Testament’s quintessential record
40:05 – Testament’s evolution from The New Order to their heavier modern sound on 2025’s Parabellum
Subscribe to Dig Me Out for weekly deep dives into 70s rock, 80s metal, 90s alternative, and 2000s rock. Join the Metal Union at digmeoutpodcast.com to vote on future albums, access bonus episodes, and connect with fellow rock fans in our private Discord community. Keep the podcast ad-free and support the next episode at dmounion.com.
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When Testament finished touring behind their debut album The Legacy, they had zero songs written for a follow-up. The label didn’t care—they demanded another record immediately. Scrambling to fulfill their contract’s 40-minute minimum, the Bay Area thrash band wrote The New Order in the studio, added an Aerosmith cover, tossed in some classical-influenced instrumentals, and somehow delivered one of 1988’s most essential thrash metal albums.
In this episode of Dig Me Out 80s Metal, hosts Jason Ziak, Tim Minneci, and Chip Midnight explore how Testament turned deadline panic into precision thrash. They break down Alex Skolnick’s astonishing guitar work (recorded when he was just 19 years old), Chuck Billy’s evolving vocal style, the power grooves that made Testament stand apart from their thrash peers, and why this album should’ve earned them a spot in the “Big Five” of thrash metal alongside Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax.
If you love Metallica, Anthrax, Overkill, or Bay Area thrash metal, this episode unpacks why The New Order remains a thrash clinic 37 years later.
Episode Highlights:
0:00 – Introduction to 80s Metal poll results and Testament’s victory over Motörhead, Anthrax, and Blackfoot
1:03 – Band history: Testament’s origins as Legacy, their Bay Area roots, and the contract crisis that shaped The New Order
3:47 – What works: Alex Skolnick’s classical-influenced precision playing at age 19, the power grooves, and the locked-in rhythm section
8:12 – “Into the Pit” – Why Testament’s most-played live song became a thrash anthem (even though it’s not about moshing)
12:20 – “Disciples of the Watch” – Breaking down one of the album’s heaviest tracks and Skolnick’s sweeping guitar mastery
15:04 – The Aerosmith cover: How “Nobody’s Fault” became an unexpected highlight and showcased Testament’s versatility
18:29 – The instrumentals: “Hypnosis” and “The Dirge” as atmospheric breathers that elevate the album’s pacing
21:44 – “Trial by Fire” – The single that featured on MTV’s Headbangers Ball and showcased Testament’s unique arrangements
24:03 – What doesn’t work: Chuck Billy’s Metallica-influenced vocals and missed melodic opportunities
29:59 – Original vs. remastered versions: Why the remaster brings the bass and drums forward for a fuller sound
34:47 – Worthy Album ratings across the board and why this is Testament’s quintessential record
40:05 – Testament’s evolution from The New Order to their heavier modern sound on 2025’s Parabellum
Subscribe to Dig Me Out for weekly deep dives into 70s rock, 80s metal, 90s alternative, and 2000s rock. Join the Metal Union at digmeoutpodcast.com to vote on future albums, access bonus episodes, and connect with fellow rock fans in our private Discord community. Keep the podcast ad-free and support the next episode at dmounion.com.

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