In 2017, Mark Norman was in line to be Canada’s next chief of defence staff — until he was accused of and criminally charged with leaking government secrets. It was an accusation that was widely seen as a political witch-hunt by the Liberal government, and the House of Commons eventually offered an all-party apology for it when the charges were dropped. Had that not happened, the retired vice-admiral and former vice-chief of the defence staff would have very likely been in charge of the Canadian Forces today. In this exclusive one-on-one interview, Norman joins Anthony to discuss the shocking Afghanistan evacuation, the threats facing Canada now, military sexual misconduct scandals, and the serious identity crisis he sees in the Canadian Forces now.  (Recorded on August 4 and 20, 2021)

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