During the Trump administration’s winter immigration surge, high-level officials assured ICE agents that they could act with impunity. But two different legal cases from Minnesota and Maine are finding ways to challenge the immunity they assumed they had as federal officers.

Guest:  Mark Joseph Stern, senior staff writer at Slate covering courts and the law cohost of Amicus.

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