Let's explore a fascinating tension in Paul's ministry at Ephesus, where slowing down to invest deeply in a few leaders actually accelerated the spread of the gospel throughout Asia Minor.

Through conversations about passages like this, along with discipleship, and the pattern of Jesus, hosts Mark and Dave wrestle with how modern ministry leaders can balance the pressure for rapid expansion with the patient work of developing mature disciples.

They unpack why "taking as long as it takes" to develop leaders might be the counter-intuitive key to sustainable movement growth.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​