Do you, dear students, have tons of money? No? Weird. Luckily, Joe Saul-Sehy of the Stacking Benjamins podcast joins us on the show this week.  Joe was a financial advisor for many years, he was known as the Money Man  on WXYZ-TV in Detroit, and he’s a financial columnist in a bunch of places around the print and web news media. He and his wife Cheryl, a pediatrician, have gone through all the stages that pre-meds and med students go through. So we asked him to join us to talk about the strategies they employed to claw their way back from med school debt, educating yourself about how money works, having fun with  managing your money, and why it's particularly important for doctors to understand money.  Joe's got plenty of information, resources and 'fintech' apps to recommend for succeeding in this area that many people (never mind med students) have not adequately explored.