Mark is joined by comedy writer Pete Sinclair, along with Elliot Steel, as he tries to make sense of Rishi Sunak telling us to hold our nerve, what it was like writing for Spitting Image – and whether it's a coincidence that Mark and Pete both started out as milkmen!

Plus, a woman who Mark heard on a phone-in show complaining about children identifying as cats – and deceased Yorkshire cricketer Fred Trueman on the rise of women's cricket!

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