Today’s episode is the first to officially feature two amazing women in my life— Callan, my groovy little sister, and Olivia, my long-time stellar friend. I had the opportunity to catch a conversation with this cute couple about their experiences navigating social media, labels, coming out, being queer in high school, and figuring out how the hell to be queer in a heteronormative world. Ideas in this episode point to heterosexism, stereotypes, the difficulty of being queer as a young person, over sexualization of queer—especially female—people, and other challenges experienced by queer people. Plus, Cal and Liv speak about their passions for their respective arts with Cal pursuing dance and Liv creating music as a singer/songwriter. I’m continually inspired by the confidence these two gals emanate despite the obstacles they’ve faced AND how far they’ve come as individuals since our high school days. It’s been a blessing for me to be a part of their journeys and see them both thrive as a couple and as individual artists making a positive impact on the LGBTQ+ community and others.
*This episode’s hygge tidbit is embedded in the hyggesnak—honest, cozy, conversation—I had with Cal and Liv 😊
Featured music:
How We Love by Olie.G
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Today’s tidbits:
1:15 Welcome to the podcast, Cal and Liv!
4:45 Social media influencers? #globalgaygirlgang
11:35 Labels and identity
14:50 Being out-ed vs. coming out
19:00 Queer in high school: lost with no guide
30:15 The demand (and distaste) for labels
34:00 Coming out is CONSTANT
39:00 “You look straight”
42:00 Meet Olie.G, a rising queer POP sensation!
48:00 Meet Cal, a true dancing artist
53:15 A party for who?? Party for People!!
56:30 How We Love, outro
Quotes:
• “[Social media] was a way for us to be ourselves and not have to worry about how people would react to it” –Cal
• “Queer…queer…QUEER”—Liv
• “Liv and I had no hand in our coming out process”—Cal
• “In their eyes, if we did identify as something other than straight then our entire life was a lie up until that point”—Cal
• “I don’t really give a shit. People can perceive me however they want. Because the truth is you can’t make people know you just by looking at you, so might as well be comfortable with how you’re presenting” –Cal
• “Before I admitted I was gay, I always, always had the fear that people would assume I was gay”—Liv
• “I want to say, this is my girlfriend, Cal, and move on”—Liv
• “I don’t think either of us had a queer role model to look up to”—Liv
• “If there were people that were “popular” and they were living amongst the straights in harmony, it’s because they made themselves palatable by dressing a certain way or engaging in certain activities”—Cal
• “I hate the sexualization of it”—Cal
• “Music has 100% turned into the big gay platform of my life”—Liv