If sports are a metaphor for life, what are they telling us about our society right now?

Dave Zirin, sports editor for The Nation, and author of ten books on the politics of sports, joins Kai to talk about the “Pandemic Games,” the peril of chasing perfection, and just how much has changed since the 2020 summer of activism in big league sports.

Plus, the hard conversation so many of us are avoiding: Executive producer Veralyn Williams gets advice from WNYC’s health and science editor Nsikan Akpan on how to talk with loved ones who refuse the Covid vaccine.

Companion listening for this episode:

Serving Up Social Justice (09/14/2020)

Despite empty stands, athletes are making waves across the sports industry speaking out against anti-black violence. Many Americans support, but not everyone is a fan.

What Covid Revealed 

A curation of our episodes on the hard lessons of this pandemic -- and on the opportunities it offers for transforming our lives and our society.

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