Jason has made a huuuuge mess. Well, his wife started it, but he sure as heck didn't step up to set things right when he saw the first red flags. 30 years later, he's still struggling to understand the effects of his mess. And we're pretty sure he's a ways away from taking any kind of personal responsibility for it, but everyone has to start somewhere. And we're just glad he's started.

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