Katie, Lottie and Nick discuss what they are fighting FOR – what they see as our ideal relationship with other animals. More specifically, the conversation covers: our current relationships with non-human animals, swimming with free-living sea lions, animal rights versus animal welfare, various uses of animals including for companionship and for people with disabilities, and the practical implications of taking on an animal rights perspective.  Throughout the month of June we are raising money to keep our show and 3CR Community Radio going for another year! We have already had a number of donations and we’re nearly 1/3 of the way to our target – thanks so much to those who have already donated! We appreciate any donations, big or small, and you can donate to this campaign here: https://www.givenow.com.au/cr/freedomofspecies  Also a reminder about our Radiothon show coming up on Sunday June the 18th, 1-2pm. This show will feature many of our Freedom of Species hosts, and will be packed with animal and animal rights themed trivia. Listen live via 3cr.org.au and you can play along by texting in your answers to the questions on 0488 809 855. Click ‘going’ on the event page so you can be reminded about the show! https://www.facebook.com/events/599170282216698/  Music and comedy featured: Animal liberation by Los Fastidios: https://www.losfastidios.net/ I want a dog by Weezer: https://weezer.lnk.to/music Stand-up comedy from Romesh Ranganathan – The Cynic (Netflix). Not while I’m around by Edward Sanders and Helena Bonham Carter, from the Sweeney Todd soundtrack: https://open.spotify.com/track/3xvYLzcnpr2wOIWCkToTST?si=1e43588e51db440a The Best Freestylers in the World by Aunty Donna, ft Montaigne and Boilermakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoYF9DJaOE