Sustainability only works when it works for the bird, the people, and the bottom line. In this episode, Andy Vance talks with Dr. Katy Tarrant about building a practical definition of sustainability that producers can use every day. They outline a clear three-pillar approach that balances welfare, environmental stewardship, and economic reality, and they translate that framework into barn-level choices that improve outcomes without creating new headaches.

The conversation looks at how small, measurable changes in litter management, ventilation, stocking density, and enrichment can lift both welfare and performance. Dr. Tarrant explains how to collect the right data, avoid chasing vanity metrics, and communicate results to teams and customers in ways that build trust. Listeners come away with a simple roadmap for testing ideas, tracking impact, and scaling what works across flocks and seasons.

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