Ever feel like your relationship is more “meh” than magic? 

Kate dives deep into the real, raw, and relatable side of love with clinical psychologists and couple therapists Helen Robertson and Shahn Baker Sorekli. 

Kate chats with the duo—who just so happen to be partners in both business and life—about the myths of the perfect relationship, what happens after the honeymoon phase fades, and why kindness beats grand gestures every time. 

With over 34 years of combined experience, Helen and Shahn unpack the power of empathy, how to rebuild trust, and what to do when only one partner wants to work on the relationship. 

With laughs, heart, and some hard truths, this honest conversation will leave you rethinking what it really takes to make love last.

Listen For

05:30 – When the Cracks Start to Show

10:30 – Relationships Need Servicing Too

15:10 – Willingness vs. Willfulness in Therapy

22:00 – Can Relationships Survive Betrayal?

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