Middle school is often the point where parents notice a sudden drop in motivation—and it can be confusing, frustrating, and even worrying to watch a once-engaged child seem checked out or uninterested. Sometimes what looks like “laziness” or a lack of effort is often something very different beneath the surface.

In this episode of The Parenting Pair Podcast, Dr. Annalise Caron and Dr. Suzanne Allen unpack what’s really going on when teens appear unmotivated. They explore how developmental changes, school demands, emotional overwhelm, and fear of failure can all impact motivation during the middle and high school years—and why traditional approaches like pressure, rewards, or repeated reminders often backfire.

The conversation focuses on how parents can respond in ways that support confidence, autonomy, and emotional safety, rather than increasing resistance or shutdown. Dr. Caron and Dr. Allen explain how motivation is closely tied to a child’s sense of competence, connection, and being understood—and how small shifts in parenting language and expectations can make a meaningful difference.

Together, they discuss:

• Why kids usually already feel bad when they’re falling behind
• How control, pressure, and repeated advice can reduce motivation over time
• The importance of respect and autonomy in maintaining engagement
• Moving from a “director” role to a “mentor” role as kids grow
• Why punishment doesn’t build motivation—and what has a better chance of success
• Simple environmental shifts that can support effort and follow-through

Here are some highlights from the episode:

00:00 — When Your Child Struggles: Parent Support is What Truly Matters

00:47 — Understanding Motivation in Middle School: How Parents Can Help

02:16 — Why Interest in Anything Is a Positive Sign

05:14 — Kids Usually Know When They’re Struggling

05:29 — Why Control and Constant Suggestions Can Backfire

07:03 — Why Teens Value Feeling Respected

07:44 — Shifting From “Director” to “Mentor” as a Parent

09:26 — The Hard Truth: You Can’t Make Your Teen Do Anything

11:31 — Two Very Different Ways to Talk About the Same Issue

13:26 — Book Recommendation: 10 to 25 — The Science of Motivating Young People

14:47 — Practicing Radical Acceptance of Different Paths and Timelines

16:39 — Why Punishment Does Not Create Motivation

18:17 — Holding High Expectations While Still Believing in Your Child

20:00 — Protecting the Parent–Child Relationship Above All

26:05 — Kids Do Best When Motivation Comes From Within

27:01 — Small Environmental Changes That Can Support Motivation

31:15 — When It’s Time to Seek Additional Support

If you’re parenting a tween or teen who seems disengaged, resistant, or discouraged—and you’re not sure how to help without making things worse—this episode offers compassionate, developmentally informed guidance to help you support motivation while protecting your relationship.

Resources that we mentioned in this episode:

• The Explosive Child by Dr. Ross Greene https://drrossgreene.com/the-explosive-child.htm
• 10-25 The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation and Making Your Own Life Easier by Dr. David Yeager https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/David-Yeager/200441584
• The Parenting Pair Podcast, Episode 32 Stop Relying on Willpower: Tips on Teen Motivation and Behavior Change (the make it easy, make it hard strategy). https://drscaronandallen.com/podcast/episode/stop-relying-on-willpower-tips-on-teen-motivation-and-behavior-change/

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