Apologies for the reverb, we were unsuccessfully attempting to Instagram live and record at the same time.  Anywho, today's episode is all about the current wildfire situation in CA.  Dan and Ryan don't have all the answers; instead they have a honest discussion of how are we here? How do we begin to talk with non-agricultural interests about preventing these disasters and put everything on the table?  Climate change, custom grazing, timbering, firebreaks, urbanization of the forest, proper staffing, the importance of local response, volunteer crews, access to livestock during an event, they touched on everything.   We hope this discussion helps people to forward plan and start to respectfully engage our representatives.  Sheep, goats, cattle and other ruminants should play and important role in future fire mitigation measures.