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When people think about animal rescue, they often picture a few animals and a lot of good intentions. In this episode, host Deborah Niemann talks with Deborah Blum, founder of Goatlandia Farm Animal Sanctuary in Sebastopol, California, about what it really takes to run a nonprofit farm animal sanctuary with dozens of goats and more than 150 animals total.

Deborah Blum shares how a simple love of goats turned into Goatlandia, a sanctuary that provides lifelong care for abused, neglected, stray, and surrendered farm animals. What began with just a few goats has grown into a complex operation involving quarantine protocols, disease management, veterinary partnerships, volunteers, fundraising, and constant decision-making about when to say yes—and when to say no.

In their conversation, Blum opens up about the realities of rescue work, including caring for goats with chronic diseases like CL, managing biosecurity, and helping animals recover not just physically, but emotionally. She also shares unforgettable rescue stories, from feral goats found wandering the woods to animals that survived severe injuries and neglect and went on to thrive at the sanctuary.

This episode also explores the behind-the-scenes work that many people never consider, such as building a reliable veterinary team, supporting staff and volunteers, educating the community, and creating sustainable revenue streams to keep a sanctuary running long-term.

Whether you’ve ever dreamed of starting a farm animal sanctuary, are involved in rescue work, or simply want a deeper understanding of what compassionate goat care looks like on a large scale, this episode offers an honest, thoughtful look at the challenges and rewards of running a goat rescue.

Goat Health & Disease Resources

• Testing Goats for CAE, CL, and Johne’s (podcast)
• Abscesses and CL in Goats (article)
• Caprine Arthritis Encephalitis (CAE) in Goats (article)
• Johne’s Disease in Goats (podcast)

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Proper nutrition during pregnancy is essential for keeping both does and kids healthy — but more isn’t always better! In this short, science-based episode, Deborah Niemann explains how to balance feed, minerals, and body condition during gestation, and why following feeding advice from other species (or even other parts of the world) can lead to trouble.

She also shares lessons from her own herd, including what happened when overfeeding resulted in giant kids, and how choosing the right hay and minerals can help prevent pregnancy complications such as hypocalcemia and toxemia.

Additional Information:

• Study Referenced in This Episode
• Do Goats Need Grain During Pregnancy? (article)

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If you’ve ever wondered how goats went from being banned in colonies to beloved on social media, this episode is for you! 

In this episode of For the Love of Goats, host Deborah Niemann talks with Tami Parr, author of Goats in America: A Cultural History  (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases), about how goats have shaped — and been shaped by — American society for over 400 years.

Tami shares how her background as a cheese writer and historian led her to explore the surprising role of goats in U.S. history — from being despised agricultural “troublemakers” in the 1600s to starring in today’s goat yoga classes and artisan cheese shops. She also explains how perceptions of goat milk shifted during the tuberculosis outbreaks of the 19th century, leading to a complete transformation in how Americans viewed goats and dairy. 

Whether you raise goats, love history, or are simply curious about how these resilient animals earned their place in American culture, this episode offers a fascinating journey through time — full of unexpected stories, social change, and a few laughs along the way.

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If you’ve ever wondered how to turn your goat milk into something people line up for, this episode is for you! 

In this episode of For the Love of Goats, host Deborah Niemann chats with Oskar Edwall from Sweden, who started with just a few goats and ended up creating a thriving business making goat milk ice cream and gelato.

Oskar shares how his curiosity for goat milk led to raising his own herd, experimenting with recipes, and eventually perfecting creamy, flavorful gelato that customers can’t get enough of. From using Swedish dairy goats and Anglo-Nubians to learning gelato-making, he explains the science, creativity, and passion behind his success.

Whether you’re dreaming of selling your own goat milk ice cream, experimenting with gelato recipes, or just love hearing about creative ways goats can support a homestead, this episode is packed with inspiration (and maybe a few cravings too!).

You may also enjoy:

• Episode 161 - Turning Goat Milk into Pet Food: Labeling and Licensing Essentials 
• Episode 156 - From Lab Coat to Cheesecloth: Dr. Kandice Marchant’s Delicious Second Act
• Episode 33 - Prairie Fruits Farm and Creamery

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When people hear you have goats, one of the first questions they ask is, “Do you do goat yoga?” In this fun and fascinating episode, host Deborah Niemann talks with the person who started it all—Lainey Morse, founder of the original Goat Yoga in Oregon’s Willamette Valley.

Lainey shares how goat yoga began in 2016 during one of the most difficult times of her life—and how a simple idea for “Goat Happy Hour” transformed into a viral global phenomenon featured on CNN, People Magazine, The New York Times, and more.

You’ll hear how she built her business from her farm to multiple licensed locations across the U.S., what makes goats perfect partners for yoga, and the practical realities—like insurance, zoning, and goat care—that many people overlook when they try to start goat yoga on their own.

Whether you’ve thought about starting goat yoga yourself, or just want to understand why the world fell in love with it, this episode is full of heart, humor, and inspiration.

You may also enjoy:

• Ep #85 Goat Business Ideas: How to Make Money With Your Goats
• Ep #159 How Beekman 1802 Used GOAT Wisdom to Build a Beloved Brand 
• Ep #142 Rent a Goat: Turning Goatscaping into a Thriving Business
• Ep #127 Success with Dairy Goats: Goat Milk Stuff
• Ep #132 Farm Stays: The Key to a Diversified Farm

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In this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Dr. Daniela Luethy, Assistant Professor of Large Animal Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, to discuss the realities of uterine tears in goats, risk factors, and what goat owners need to know as kidding season approaches. Dr. Luethy shares the results of a new multicenter study on reproductive complications in goats and clarifies common misunderstandings about prevention, symptoms, and management of uterine tears.

If you raise goats, are anticipating kids, or want expert insight into kidding emergencies, this episode is a must-listen.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why uterine tears happen in goats and why they’re often misunderstood
• The challenges of researching goat reproductive disorders
• Study findings: prevalence, risk factors, and survival rates for uterine tears
• Why small breed goats are at greater risk—especially with on-farm intervention
• The warning signs of uterine tears and how they differ from vaginal tears
• When to call a vet and how to reduce the risks during kidding
• What goat owners can do to help prevent serious complications
• Why veterinary involvement can save lives
• What’s still unknown about rebreeding goats that survived a uterine tear
• Areas where more research is needed on goat reproductive health

Resources:

• Multicenter study of uterine tears and other reproductive complications in periparturient goats presented to veterinary teaching hospitals
• Pregnancy Toxemia in Goats (podcast)
• University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine - Facebook
• University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine - Instagram

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Goat milk has been used for centuries to soothe and nourish skin—but now science is catching up to explain why it works so well. In this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Dr. Brent Ridge, physician and co-founder of Beekman 1802, to explore the research behind goat milk’s unique skin benefits. From maintaining the skin’s pH to supporting a healthy microbiome, Dr. Ridge shares insights from more than a decade of clinical studies and product development.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why goat milk’s pH is so important for protecting sensitive skin.
• How gentle cleansing with goat milk helps preserve the skin’s barrier.
• The role of oligosaccharides in nourishing beneficial bacteria on the skin.
• What the skin microbiome is—and why balance matters more than “good” or “bad” bacteria.
• How lactic acid in goat milk provides gentle daily exfoliation without irritation.
• The discovery of goat milk exosomes and their potential in advanced skin care.
• The science behind peptides in goat milk and how smaller fragments may deliver targeted benefits.
• Why Beekman 1802 lists “kindness” as an ingredient in every product—and how it’s linked to overall wellness and longevity.

Whether you make your own goat milk soap or simply want to understand the science behind it, this episode offers fascinating insights into how nature’s original moisturizer works at a cellular level.

Resources:

• Beekman 1802
• Goat Wisdom by Brent Ridge & Josh Kilmer-Purcell
  • Buy on Amazon
  • Buy on Bookshop

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In this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Chris Gifford, president of the North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA), to talk about the growing challenges that pack goat owners face when it comes to accessing public lands.

Chris explains what goat packing is, how it works, and why goats make excellent trail companions. He also shares the history of NAPgA and its advocacy efforts to keep public lands open to pack goat users in the face of increasing restrictions—most of which stem from unproven concerns about disease transmission between goats and wild bighorn sheep.

If you’ve ever wanted to take your goats hiking or are curious about the barriers pack goat users face, this episode offers both inspiration and insight into an issue that affects animal lovers, hikers, and land use advocates alike.

What You’ll Learn:

• What goat packing is and how it works on the trail
• How Chris got involved in goat packing and NAPgA
• Why some public lands are closed to pack goats—and what the science does not say
• How to find out if a specific public land is open to pack goat use
• What NAPgA is doing to protect access to public lands
• The differences between pack goats and domestic sheep, and why that matters
• Where goat packing as a sport is headed in the future
  
  

Resources Mentioned:

• North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA)
• NAPgA Facebook Page
• Mycoplasma In Goats - podcast episode

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If you're considering adding pack goating to your goats’ resumes, this episode is packed with practical tips and essential insights. Deborah Niemann chats with Nathan Putnam, a board member of the North American Pack Goat Association and owner of Putnam Pack Goats. Together, they dive into the world of pack goats, from choosing the right goats to the gear you'll need for your trips.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• The history of pack goating and how it started in the 1970s.
• Why pack goats are a growing alternative to horses and llamas for backcountry hiking and camping.
• What to look for in a goat for packing: from breed preferences to physical traits and characteristics.
• The age at which to start training your goats and how to gradually increase their load capacity.
• Essential gear for pack goating, including saddles, panniers, and leads.
• How to train adult goats, even those already in your herd, to become pack goats.
• What to expect on a typical pack goating trip: daily routines, feeding, and water strategies.
• Dealing with predators and other considerations when hiking with goats in the backcountry.
  
  

Whether you’re looking to start pack goating or just want to learn more about it, this episode offers valuable advice and inspiration. Nathan shares his experience and knowledge, making it easier than ever to embark on your own pack goat adventure.

Resources:

• North American Pack Goat Association (NAPgA)
• Putnam Pack Goats

If you’ve ever thought about earning an income with goats, check out our list of goat business ideas to spark your own inspiration.

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If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to legally sell raw goat milk or farm-made pet treats, this episode is full of first-hand insight and practical tips. Deborah sits down with Carly Brown and Shawn Phillips of The Good Steward Farm in Virginia, where their herd of 28 goats helps power two small businesses: goat-powered landscaping and licensed raw milk pet products.

Carly and Shawn walk us through the behind-the-scenes process of getting a pet feed license, working with state inspectors, completing nutritional testing, and creating professional packaging that customers trust—all while reducing waste and adding value to every part of the farm.

In this episode, you’ll learn how Carly and Shawn:

• Navigated labeling laws and testing requirements to sell raw milk legally as pet food
  
  
• Turned their freeze dryer into a profit-making machine for chicken heads and yogurt treats
  
  
• Worked with state officials to get label approvals and avoid regulatory pitfalls
  
  
• Developed packaging that instantly improved product appeal and sales
  
  
• Balanced their goat business with full-time jobs and a multi-herd setup
  
  
• Maintained transparency and integrity while planning for future human-grade dairy sales

Whether you're exploring a goat-based business, interested in pet food production, or just love hearing what’s possible with a little grit and goat love, this episode is sure to inspire.

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