Biologist and Author, Matt Ridley joins us in the studio. His latest title, co-authored with Alina Chan, Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19, is now available.

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Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians.

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 Intro

01:46 Lab Leak: Conspiracy Theory to Mainstream

04:12 Why Does it Matter Where COVID Came From?

05:48 The Evidence for Wuhan Lab Leak Theory

15:36 Gain-of-Function Research: Purpose and Risks

29:51 Biosafety at the Wuhan Institute of Biology 

34:13 Previous Lab Leaks and Cover-Ups

37:15 How Do We Prevent Another Pandemic?

50:02 Will We Ever Find Out What Happened?

52:57 Biotechnology / De-extinction