For more than a century, the mainstream story of human origins has centered on Darwin’s evolutionary model and the “Out of Africa” theory. According to this narrative, modern humans emerged in Africa around 200,000 years ago and gradually spread across the globe. But what if that story is incomplete? What if the evidence points to something far more mysterious?

In this conversation, author and researcher Paul Wallis sits down with father-and-son team Steven and Evan Strong, Australian authors and presenters known for their work on Indigenous wisdom, archaeology, and human origins. Their research draws from both ancient Aboriginal knowledge and the latest in genetic studies, raising profound questions about where humanity really came from.

The Strongs argue that the evidence of multiple hominin species, genetic anomalies, and ancient skulls unearthed in Australia all challenge the accepted narrative. They highlight mitochondrial and Y-chromosome studies showing that modern humans may not trace a single lineage out of Africa, but instead to a much more diverse and interconnected past. Aboriginal oral histories, they suggest, preserve the memory of encounters with beings from the Pleiades and other star systems — stories that align with mythologies from across the world.

Together, Wallis and the Strongs explore how these accounts fit into a broader picture of extraterrestrial involvement in human evolution. From unexplained genetic markers to skulls that defy classification, to the enduring stories of the “Sky People,” their dialogue challenges us to question whether our true history has been deliberately obscured.

Ultimately, the conversation is not only about the past but about the present: What does it mean if humanity is a hybrid species, with roots both on Earth and beyond? And why would beings from other star systems have chosen to intervene in our story?

This interview invites readers to rethink the foundations of human history — and to consider that the most profound answers to our origins may lie not only in archaeology or genetics, but in the voices of the world’s most ancient cultures.