This week on rabble radio, our Jack Layton Journalism for Change fellow, Madison Edward-Wright sits down with Ted Rutland.

Rutland is an author and associate professor at Concordia University. His latest book, which he co-authored with Maxime Aurélien, is Out to Defend Ourselves which shares the history of Montreal's first street gang.

Today on the podcast, Rutland and Edward-Wright discuss Rutland's research work on anti-Black racism and policing in Canada — specifically, in Montreal.

Check out these resources:

• Defundpolice.org

• By Robyn Maynard: Policing Black Lives: State Violence in Canada from Slavery to the Present

• By Andrea Ritchie and Mariame Kaba: No More Police: A Case for Abolition

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