We're joined by Mark Bittman, whose career has taken him from America's most beloved cookbook author to one of our most outspoken food system critics, arguing that the modern food system is degrading human and planetary health.

We'll be discussing how Mark changed his mind from seeing the problem with the food system as primarily a matter of individual consumer choices to recognizing them as deeply embedded in corporate power and government policy. We’ll explore how this fundamentally changed his approach to fixing our food system: pivoting from a focus on teaching people how to cook well, to focusing on the structures and systems that make eating well hard for so many people.

Want more Mark Bittman?

• Check out his website The Bittman Project
• Check out his cookbooks
• Check out his writing for the New York Times
• Check out his podcast Food with Mark Bittman

About the hosts:

Thom and Aidan left boring, stable careers in law and tech to found ⁠⁠⁠⁠FarmKind⁠⁠⁠⁠, a donation platform that helps people be a part of the solution to factory farming — regardless of their diet. While the podcast isn’t about animal welfare, it’s inspired by their daily experience grappling with a fundamental question: Why do people so rarely change their minds, even when confronted with compelling evidence? This curiosity drives their exploration of intellectual humility and the complex factors that enable (or prevent) meaningful belief change.

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