Successive governments trying to look "tough on crime" have driven a rising prison population that's overwhelmed the system, according to a new report. Why doesn’t prison work? Why does the public still think that it does? 

Also, Conservative Leader Kemi Badenoch has said “our country and all of western civilisation will be lost” if efforts to promote rightwing ideas fail. She implored Brits to get up off their knees and “fight”. What does she mean and who does she want us to fight?

And, the head teacher of a school in Monmouth has introduced Saturday detentions for disobedient pupils. He’s said his school has “zero-tolerance towards defiance”. Do most kids perform better under strict teachers? How much do disruptive children impact teachers and peers?

This episode was recorded on the 18th February. Catch James O'Brien weekdays from 10am on LBC.