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Why Hormone Optimization Is Now Essential for High-Performing Men


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Most men past their 30s aren’t broken. They feel depleted, but their doctors point to normal labs and move on.

In this episode of the Smart Nutrition Made Simple Show, I sit down with Nico Misleh, Clinician, Nurse Practitioner and Founder of HRT University who trains medical providers in hormone optimization and works directly with patients in practice.

We break down the impact of hormones to overall wellness, testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and why diet and lifestyle alone eventually stops being enough for a lot of men. This is not about shortcuts or chasing numbers. It is about understanding when biology becomes the limiting factor and responding appropriately.

If your labs look normal but your symptoms show otherwise, this episode will resonate with you.


Episode Timeline

00:00 – Episode Preview

01:42 – Podcast Intro

02:18 – Why Doing Everything Right Still Feels Wrong

03:20 – The Slow Decline Most Men Miss

04:25 – When Energy and Focus Start Slipping

05:29 – How Nico Ended Up in Hormone Medicine

06:40 – Early Exposure to Functional Medicine

07:33 – Lessons From Working With Real Patients

08:45 – Why Hormones Change Everything

09:53 – Why Medical Training Misses Hormones

10:45 – The Limits of Conventional Care

11:10 – The Problem With Reference Ranges

12:26 – When Normal Labs Stop Meaning Anything

13:40 – Symptoms That Get Dismissed

14:40 – Treating the Person Not the Paperwork

15:55 – Why Men Are Told to Accept Less

17:30 – The Point Where Lifestyle Stops Working

19:00 – Where Hormones Fit In

20:20 – Hormones as a Support Tool

22:10 – The Commitment Side of TRT

24:50 – Individualized Dosing Versus Templates

28:19 – The Most Common TRT Mistakes Men Make

35:10 – Addressing Stigma Around Testosterone

43:12 – Is Testosterone Actually Cheating

55:11 – Podcast Outro

Connect with Nico Misleh, MSN, FNP - C

  1. Learn more about HRT University:
  2. https://www.hrtuniversity.com
  3. Nico’s clinical practice in Ohio:
  4. https://www.apollohealthop.com

Links & Resources:

  1. Connect with Ben on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodysystemscoaching/
  2. Learn more about Ben’s coaching program: www.bodysystems.com
  3. Subscribe to the Smart Nutrition Made Simple Show on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-smart-nutrition-made-simple-show-with-ben-brown/id1244912234
  4. Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4H8vUlwYvKcAXZOv84sFgT
  5. YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bodysystemscoaching
  6. Book Free Nutrition Strategy Call - https://bodysystems.com/free-strategy-call/


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